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Twisted Leaders: Instructions + Diagrams

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Luke Wyrsta:
I am in the process of drafting instructions for making twisted leaders. This will be a resource for GT anglers and will be going on the GTPopping.com main site.

These are drafts. I would value any feedback from experienced and beginning anglers on how clear and simple these instructions are.

Greg Burt:
Hi Luke, I have a couple of twisted leaders put away for impoundment Barra but might as well use them for Popping. I was suss on them because the twists apear to reflect light which wouldn't be a problem popping the surface. They must work because of thier popularity at a serious price, you thoughts please.
I like your Midknot, I tried it joining braid main to mono backing 8kg mono/15lb Nitlon [fiddley] and 15kg mono/30lb Nitlon as it lays flat. I used it to join the 30lb to 60lb Jinkai leader and put over the scales to 5kg drag, no problem and looks a good low profile knot but i'll keep a eye on it, I read somewhere you prefer other knots.
Do you also coat this knot in braid friendly glue and burn the leader end ?. :-\
What glue do you prefer ?, I used to use Plio-Bond but cannot find it anywhere [with all the chat I hope you find time to fish] ::).

Neil:
Hi Greg

As you say, one of the down sides of a full twisty is it's faceted appearance, this can put fish off in certain conditions. My own GT leaders finish in a single strand of 250 to 400lb mono.
Midknot is ok and doesn't need glue or melted leader end to work. Everyone needs to be aware that Japanese anglers use this knot in heavy braid, think 150 to 200lb, where the margin for error is acceptable. Tests have shown midknots to break fairly low compared to a well tied bimini to leader connection. This topic is quite complex, on other forums it has gone on for months!!
Luke is proposing a knot tying area, hope it doesn't engulf the site. :D

Neil

Luke Wyrsta:

--- Quote from: GPB on March 12, 2007, 08:37:49 AM ---Hi Luke, I have a couple of twisted leaders put away for impoundment Barra but might as well use them for Popping. I was suss on them because the twists apear to reflect light which wouldn't be a problem popping the surface. They must work because of thier popularity at a serious price, you thoughts please.
I like your Midknot, I tried it joining braid main to mono backing 8kg mono/15lb Nitlon [fiddley] and 15kg mono/30lb Nitlon as it lays flat. I used it to join the 30lb to 60lb Jinkai leader and put over the scales to 5kg drag, no problem and looks a good low profile knot but i'll keep a eye on it, I read somewhere you prefer other knots.
Do you also coat this knot in braid friendly glue and burn the leader end ?. :-\
What glue do you prefer ?, I used to use Plio-Bond but cannot find it anywhere [with all the chat I hope you find time to fish] ::).

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I only ever use them for popping, and as you mentioned, it simply ins't a problem as the leader is rarely in the water. I also doubt that the leader would spook more fish when compared to the fishing attracting attention of the lures action. Try making your own, there aren't expensive that way and they are fun to tie.

I do like the Midknot, but as Neil stated, it is not my number 1 for those reasons. I also find that it doesn't bite very well with 130lb+ Tuf Line due to the diameter, could be just me but i reckon i can tie a midknot as quick and correct as some of the top guys. With other thinnner diameter braids, this is not an issue.

Other connections that i like, include obviously the 70 turn bimini twist, or, to form the loop, splicing the braid (hollowcore generally >100lb) and then connecting via loop to loop with twisty or using a Bristol/No-name knot. There is another knot that i like that has been created by a friend, i am in the process of learning to tie and then testing.

I do plan to post this kind of information on the main website and as a sticky here in the forum once we have some good and hard info.

Brandon Khoo:
I'm a fan of the twisted leaders too. Neil's approach by using a length of single strand is one that seems to have caught on quite a bit and I think it is an excellent idea. I tend to use this with stickbaits but for poppers, prefer the approach Luke has above where I weave the twisted leader back through to have a four strand bite segment. I'm not sure it really does a great deal but it has become a bit of a habit. Unlike Luke, I only use one segment of braid for securing the bite segment but it is about two cms long and I superglue it. it's great - never had a failure.

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