Topwater Caranx Ignobilis: Giant Trevally (GT) > Tackle & Techniques
Twisted Leaders: Instructions + Diagrams
Andrew Poulos:
I like the twisted leaders but also tie them off to a swivel then a single strand leader. I use 50 and 60lb twisted leaders alot, then finish up with a single strand of 80lb leader. This is mainly when spinning garfish so I dont have the twisty all the way to the gar as I let it drift around at times. When using lures I get rid of that and connect to the popper or whatever im using.
Im practicing the midknot now with 50lb tuf line and 100lb leader and on the scales it broke at almost 15kg....is that what you would expect or better ? I dont think I tied it that well so will keep trying.
Brandon Khoo:
--- Quote from: squidgie on March 12, 2007, 09:38:31 PM ---I like the twisted leaders but also tie them off to a swivel then a single strand leader. I use 50 and 60lb twisted leaders alot, then finish up with a single strand of 80lb leader. This is mainly when spinning garfish so I dont have the twisty all the way to the gar as I let it drift around at times. When using lures I get rid of that and connect to the popper or whatever im using.
Im practicing the midknot now with 50lb tuf line and 100lb leader and on the scales it broke at almost 15kg....is that what you would expect or better ? I dont think I tied it that well so will keep trying.
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Can you imagine what it would break at if you simulated the strike of a fish? As Neil wrote above, the guys using this use HEAVY braid. I prefer the FG to the midknot myself
Luke Wyrsta:
--- Quote from: berniek on March 12, 2007, 08:39:43 PM ---I'm a fan of the twisted leaders too. Neil's approach by using a length of single strand is one that seems to have caught on quite a bit and I think it is an excellent idea. I tend to use this with stickbaits but for poppers, prefer the approach Luke has above where I weave the twisted leader back through to have a four strand bite segment. I'm not sure it really does a great deal but it has become a bit of a habit. Unlike Luke, I only use one segment of braid for securing the bite segment but it is about two cms long and I superglue it. it's great - never had a failure.
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Rather than acting like more of a bite leader, i just find it as a good way to finish off the leader. If you do it right, the leader won't budge with the bite leader twisted back up, the nail knots are simply a failsafe.
What is this knot you speak of Brandon? I seem to recall you know if from your rod building days?
Cheers,
Luke
Luke Wyrsta:
--- Quote from: squidgie on March 12, 2007, 09:38:31 PM ---I like the twisted leaders but also tie them off to a swivel then a single strand leader. I use 50 and 60lb twisted leaders alot, then finish up with a single strand of 80lb leader. This is mainly when spinning garfish so I dont have the twisty all the way to the gar as I let it drift around at times. When using lures I get rid of that and connect to the popper or whatever im using.
Im practicing the midknot now with 50lb tuf line and 100lb leader and on the scales it broke at almost 15kg....is that what you would expect or better ? I dont think I tied it that well so will keep trying.
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Although the midknot is notorious for breaking at low pressures, i find that exceptionally low.
Neil may be able to comment in more detail.
Brandon Khoo:
It's a variant on what rod builder do when they attach the feet of guides. If I could only get the damn photo to work, I'd do one and post it.
--- Quote from: Luke Wyrsta on March 12, 2007, 10:11:15 PM ---
--- Quote from: berniek on March 12, 2007, 08:39:43 PM ---I'm a fan of the twisted leaders too. Neil's approach by using a length of single strand is one that seems to have caught on quite a bit and I think it is an excellent idea. I tend to use this with stickbaits but for poppers, prefer the approach Luke has above where I weave the twisted leader back through to have a four strand bite segment. I'm not sure it really does a great deal but it has become a bit of a habit. Unlike Luke, I only use one segment of braid for securing the bite segment but it is about two cms long and I superglue it. it's great - never had a failure.
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Rather than acting like more of a bite leader, i just find it as a good way to finish off the leader. If you do it right, the leader won't budge with the bite leader twisted back up, the nail knots are simply a failsafe.
What is this knot you speak of Brandon? I seem to recall you know if from your rod building days?
Cheers,
Luke
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