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Rigging a stick bait for marlin

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Robert Palcak:

--- Quote from: Aaron Concord on November 28, 2009, 11:37:37 PM ---Both of these hooks, Pakula Dojo's or Cutlass's rigged as assist rigs or take the wire out of the lure to let it slide up the leader with a single assist out the bum, those are some of my thoughts.

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Good call on the Cutlass Aaron! I didn't even think of using that... definately a nice hook shape for Billfish.

Shane... one of the main reasons I am sticking to 50-100g lures is that... the heavier the lure, the greater the chance the Marlin will throw the hooks with it's violent head shakes. Having said that, the lure still needs to match the rod so you can cast it effectively... althought you may not need to cast far if you tease the fish up to the transom!  ;)

Aaron Concord:
Gavin,

You are right, every marlin species has a personality to it, let alone the individuals.
From what I have seen on sailfish in Oz, if one turns on a cast lure, slowing down and imparting a 'dying baitfish' while retrieving at a slower pace seems to get them to hook up better.

All of the marlins, spearfish and sailfish are teaseable with hookless teasers, though smaller schooled up blacks, stripes and sailfish are 3 species that are found close enough to shore and school up enough to find in quantities to try casting at tailing fish or fish balling up bait on the surface.

My usual leader length for chasing billfish on conventional tackle is to have the length roughly the fish length. 3 meters would be fine for casting. Longer if you can still cast alright, to help control them boatside.

Robert,
 ;D
They are a versatile hook!
The Dojo & Cutlass are pretty damn similar too!
Warwick,

There are still some places over in central America where using 'twine' to grip the denticles on a billfish's bill is still used, though busted off fish have a slim chance of feeding again....it works, though it isn't my cuppa tea!

Aaron.

Warwick Joyce:

--- Quote from: Aaron Concord on December 05, 2009, 11:31:36 PM ---

There are still some places over in central America where using 'twine' to grip the denticles on a billfish's bill is still used, though busted off fish have a slim chance of feeding again....it works, though it isn't my cuppa tea!

Aaron.


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Hmm that's not good then, hooks it is.

Gavin Ng:
since on the topic of marlin on threadline gear, what leader arrangement do people use? length? i was thinking either a single strand 9ft 150lb black magic supple or twisted 80lb (160lb) twisted 8ft with a 3 foot 150-200lb leader outside of the guides for a bit more invisability. 

for line i was going to put pe6 on a stella 10k with either a 16k or 20k spool,

do you guys thing the rig is up to the task? can you advise me on any flaws?

cheers

Aaron Concord:
Warwick,

Funny enough, I thought the 'twine' method had a huge merit in areas where you find a mass amount of billfish which you do not want to harm any more than necessary. When I realized the mouth binding problem with fish that were lost with the whole rig I figured one or two fine gauge hooks were a better option after all.

Gavin,
Sounds like a terrific leader for billfish in the 50-100kg range to me.
If the water is clear or the marlin/sailfish are sub 50kg models then I'd only drop the leader strength to attract more bites with the lighter leader.
The leader length you propose is fine.
How are you attaching the 3 foot bite leader? Crimps or knots?
I'd be crimping it myself.
Having additional line for these open water runners is wise.
I like the fact you are looking at more capacity.
It comes in very handy if you end up with 2 billfish on at once!


Aaron.

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