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Neale Bird

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PR knotters..
January 05, 2010, 11:07:05 PM
Just looking for anyones opinion on the best/ most recommended PR bobbin knotter?

i've been looking at the Shout knotters and wondering if the PR-K2 is worth looking into?

Dave Foyle

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Re: PR knotters..
January 06, 2010, 12:10:58 AM
Hi Neale,

I've only used the Shout bobbin so can't make any comparisons....but it seems to do the job well to me.

Built very well too - as it should be at that price !

Dave

Jay Burgess

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Re: PR knotters..
January 06, 2010, 01:09:16 AM
the cheap ones do just as good.... the shout one is hard to go past though :)

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Re: PR knotters..
January 06, 2010, 08:49:49 AM
I use one of the normal bobbins and its fine. No issues, well, other than making sure that I have enough line around the bobbin so that it doesnt fly off across the room. ::)

Brandon Khoo

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Re: PR knotters..
January 06, 2010, 09:28:57 AM
If you are looking for the best PR knot bobbin on the market (and you didn't mention price), then the Shout is the best bobbin knotter. It simply has a level of precision you don't find on the more traditional bobbins.
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AustralianAngling

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Re: PR knotters..
January 06, 2010, 10:15:24 AM
Studio Ocean Mark have just released one about 1/3 the price of SHOUT model.
Video of it in use.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MI8PaM_91cU#noexternalembed

Isaac Denny

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Re: PR knotters..
January 06, 2010, 10:18:06 AM
Shout offerings are:


I haven't used any other Bobbin Knotter's however being new to the knot - I have seen half a dozen videos on the net that show their operation and they are simple and effective. I think the advantage of the Shout tools is that the have the clutch to allow you to fine tune the tightness of the backwards wrap section of the PR knot. But in saying that, wrapping the braid around the arms of a standard Bobbin Knotter xx times also acts as a clutch...

They are extremely well made; greased, oiled and ready to use out of the box...

Ahhh while I'm at it this is the only video I could find of the Shout Bobbin Knotter in use http://www.fishing.ne.jp/shout/bobin_siyouhouhou.html. For some reason, I have had to load the video twice to look at it each time.
Last Edit: January 06, 2010, 11:46:22 AM by Isaac Denny

Jay Burgess

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Re: PR knotters..
January 06, 2010, 01:08:27 PM
Studio Ocean Mark have just released one about 1/3 the price of SHOUT model.
Video of it in use.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MI8PaM_91cU#noexternalembed

Are these available anywhere, Steve?

EDIT... nevermind, just found it  ;D
I think I prefer the Shout one, the SOM one looks like it's only designed for lighter line?
Last Edit: January 06, 2010, 01:13:35 PM by Jay Burgess

Eric Tai

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Re: PR knotters..
January 06, 2010, 05:53:21 PM
I'm still learning to tie the PR knot, but I don't understand how the SOM knotter would apply enough tension to the wraps. I was led to believe that with a normal bobbin there is supposed to be enough tension to keep the tip right up against the leader ensuring the wraps are nice and 'toight!'


Studio Ocean Mark have just released one about 1/3 the price of SHOUT model.
Video of it in use.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MI8PaM_91cU#noexternalembed

Brandon Khoo

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Re: PR knotters..
January 06, 2010, 06:33:31 PM
I don't think the SOM tool is a PR knot bobbin. In fact, it is designed to tie a knot I'm sort of familiar with but has a different name to what they use. I can't remember what it is.

http://www.studio-oceanmark.com/en/products/knoter/howto.html

Also, as Jay points out, it seems to have been designed for light lines.
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Re: PR knotters..
January 06, 2010, 07:01:47 PM
There is also another bobbin which I use that has the friction/drag adjustment dial on it, will find out the name of the tool when I get home, but retailing for around $40-50, well worth the money. I'm sure some of the fly tying guys on the forum might know the bobbin I'm refering to.
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Re: PR knotters..
January 06, 2010, 08:05:52 PM
Sunny, I just noticed it - that is a truly magnifcent fish on your avatar!
Have you caught a smaller one on a lure?
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January 06, 2010, 08:39:02 PM
Not the ' I caught a smaller fish than you' argument again  :D
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Re: PR knotters..
January 06, 2010, 08:50:28 PM
Brandon, if you count foul hooked fish, then yes I have.. Got a measley bait fish if u could call it that which went no more than 3mm long foul hooked whilst blind casting a Jackall at one of those freshwater payponds in KL. That would be the smallest trout I've jigged up.

The bobbin which I'm refering to is called 'RITE' made in the USA. That's all I can findarked on it. Should be available at most fly fishing specific  shops.
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Re: PR knotters..
January 06, 2010, 09:13:41 PM
That would be the smallest trout I've jigged up.


Got a trout about the size of my pinky on a bait jig once... but it's debatable whether that's a jig or not  ;D