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Re: shimano stella
January 13, 2010, 10:36:32 PM
So for the less experienced amongst us ;D, if i was to buy  the current 10k stella tomorrow with the intention to fish PE8 on it, would the stock original spool  be satisfactory? If not which spool would be? and how would one be purchased?

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Re: shimano stella
January 13, 2010, 10:40:30 PM
Ooops.. I didn't even think about looking at the prices.. sorry!

Geoff, the stock spool would be fine to fish PE8 with. Its just the added line capacity and that tad more drag which would make it close to being perfect!
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Re: shimano stella
January 13, 2010, 11:03:26 PM
That pretty much sums it up!
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Re: shimano stella
January 14, 2010, 01:55:20 AM
Hi Brandon ,

Since I haven't got the latest SW10000 ( my old '98 STL10000 still works ) , please check if this Yumeya spool has Twin Disc drag system like the previous 8000FA model n if it does not then in order to increase the line capacity , the arbor must be made smaller in diameter and this will necesitate the use of smaller diameter drag washers which translate into much smaller drag area hence the decrease in max. drag figure .

Jon .

acknowledged - you're certainly right on this but something about the details of the spools don't make sense. Considering Shimano claim 23kg for the standard 10000 spool, why does a Yumeya spool only generate 14kg?  Also, why the same capacity?


Just did a quick search, definately a Stella spool

http://www.plat.co.jp/shop/catalog/product_info/language/ja/products_id/10171/yumeya-stella-sw-12000-spool.html
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Re: shimano stella
January 14, 2010, 07:40:50 AM
Jon, the stock 10000 SW does not run the twin drag system as well, only the 18 & 20000 do. So I'm presuming that the Yumeya is probably the same.
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Re: shimano stella
January 14, 2010, 11:04:15 AM
From the Australian Shimano site, http://www.shimanofish.com.au/publish/content/global_fish/en/au/index/products/reels/saltwater_spinning/Stella_FA.html

Model Retrieve Ratio Retrieve per Crank (cm) Max Drag (Kg) Line Capacity (m)    Bearings Weight (g)
STL10000SW     5.8:1 119                     23            5/457, 7/292, 9/201  15       638 

Are these line capacity figures in PE & meters?
I am looking to use 60lb braid, so with the standard 10000SW (aussie) spool, how many meters can I get on?

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Re: shimano stella
January 14, 2010, 11:18:13 AM
From the Australian Shimano site, http://www.shimanofish.com.au/publish/content/global_fish/en/au/index/products/reels/saltwater_spinning/Stella_FA.html

Model Retrieve Ratio Retrieve per Crank (cm) Max Drag (Kg) Line Capacity (m)    Bearings Weight (g)
STL10000SW     5.8:1 119                     23            5/457, 7/292, 9/201  15       638 

Are these line capacity figures in PE & meters?
I am looking to use 60lb braid, so with the standard 10000SW (aussie) spool, how many meters can I get on?

Monofilament/Metres...

As a guide you will get 200 metres + of 60lb braid based on a diameter of 0.016 of an inch.

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Re: shimano stella
January 14, 2010, 12:16:39 PM
Does anyone have a chart to convert PE to lb braid?
Or is it not that simple?

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Re: shimano stella
January 14, 2010, 01:21:25 PM
no, it's not that simple. As a rough guide, PE6 converts to 80lb, PE8 to 100lb, PE10 to 130lb etc. The big problem here though is the extent to which some lines overtest and others do not. For example, Varivas PE6 which is around 80lb may test around 80lb but TF XP 80lb may test at 100lb (this is only intended as an example)
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Re: shimano stella
January 14, 2010, 06:04:28 PM
As Brandon said it's very difficult to give a generic correlation as different companies state/measure their pound/kilo rating differently. 

PE rating would have some sort of correlation to true test rating but i'm not sure if anyone has done the work.  But even if they did do the work there would be some variance based on quality and style of line.