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AMJ/wei world v JM

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earlhamilton:
Ive got a quiver full of JM rods and love em. I have played with e few Smiths and Hots but I haven't really got the feel of them in use. What I can say is that the JM's in the 300g + range are good deep water rods (120m+)that are quite tight to the designated weight range. They can be tuned to some degree with custom building, but I'd say that going from 250-400g on a single JM rod such as the Power Spell would mean that you'll loose something at the ends of the range your looking for. I cannot speak for the JM Three kings yet as I am awaiting delivery of my first blank. I chose the Three kings 200g blank for using 150-300g because I wanted more weight range from a single rod, and I think this one may do it. I believe the  Three kings special 300g could fit into your requirements, but how it stacks up against the Smith and Hots I could not confidently say. JM appear to me to be honest about their products and I have good confidence in them. I would add that for me, I would go for a rod that suits the most normal of the activities I expect to be using it for, but thats me.

Sachin Chaudhry:
Post has come at the right time.
I am after a PE 8 rod for heavy dogtooth work. Will couple with a Stella 20K and fish 65 to 80lb on it. Have considered a Wei World but would like some advice.
Jig used will be 200 to 300gram and fishing done in 100 to 150 metres of water. Was also thinking about Carpenter. Any recommendations??

Scott Maybury:
Sachin, I got doggies from 10kg to 63kg on my Wei World in Fiji with a 20k Stella FA filled with 80lb braid on a 300gm jig. It fishes 200-320gm jigs beautifully. It will fish 400gm ok but it is not the best for that weight. Depending on the structure you will be fishing and how much pressure you want to put on the fish I would highly recommend this rod

that is a good point about the JM rods and their best jig weight ranges

earlhamilton:
Hi Sachin,
I've not long returned from a 2 week stint at the Diamond Islets with Nomad. Loads of doggies, lots of experiences and wonderful memories, including one of our guide with Nomad, Glanville prancing around on the deck of Tide Stick in a storm of spray and rage, all hair, teeth, and eyeballs, seething and foaming at the mouth, expounding every form of expletive ever muttered by man, or even by an enraged rabid South African strain of Tasmanian Devil in the midst of an apoplectic fit, after my companion Micheal got bricked in spectacular style by a leviathan of a doggie that probably went well over 100kg. It was one of 16 that we wrestled on that day between the 2 of us, and we only managed to land 2 complete Dogtooth, all the others were either sharked or just plain bricked us. But I digress.
If the rod fishes 2-300g well and can handle at least PE6, then it will be able to lift the fish in the water, if at least with a little care and no high sticking. A PE8 gives you more power, but it won't stop them from running, and generally speaking will loose some of its lighter jigging weight range. You won't stop them from running, no matter what the rod-you will be relying on the drag output from the reel, and a Stella 20k is as good as you can get with the most drag you can probably still handle. From  what I have seen, I would say that if you hook up on a really big dog then your in big trouble any way no matter what the gear. In the two weeks of doggies at the Diamond Islets, there were only three rods broken on a couple of hundred hook-ups, no doubt all due to high sticking.
Sounds to me like Scott's suggestion of the Hots Wei World is as good as any for the job on Dogtooth. The Smith AMJ, and the JM's are also proven and will also do the job just fine. For myself, I am quite happy with the JM's, and I am adding a few more with the addition of a couple of JM Three King Specials to my collection.

Sam Beeby:
Thanks Earl,

Thats exactly what I wanted to know. I think if the JM 350 (250-400g) range is quite tight to the ideal 350g rating like you say, then the 3 kings (300) 53S-M will be the go. With a bit more length and a softer tip I'm hoping it'll work jigs on the lighter side of the stated 250-400g range better than a JM350 can. It sounds like it'll have as much grunt as the JM350 anyway.
 I'm in the process of finding the best east coast supplierof JM's for one now - any advice on that!
thanks
sam

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