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Trebles vs singles

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Brandon Khoo:
Since heavy GT popping was introduced, the ideal hook has always been considered to be a heavy (bloody heavy!) treble hook. There have been very few options here outside of the Decoy GT, the Gamakatsu Recorder, the Fisherman KG120 and to a lesser extent, the Owner ST-66. This has now been replaced by the ST-76 which from the little experience I have had with it is a far superior hook.

Exeprienced GT fisherman have all had problems at some time with their trebles, even with these super-strong trebles. It appears that at certain angles where the GT can really exert direct pressure on the hook that they will compromise it.

In the last couple of years, there seems to have been a discernible move by quite a number of GT fisherman to single hooks. Ones which are being used include the incredibly strong owner Jobus, the owner opposite eye S-77 Stingers and a number of guys are now starting to rig up assist hoooks like the Fisherman Sidens or the Owner SJ-51.

Based on my limited experience with singles, I have no doubt they hold better once you are hooked up but I don't know if the percentage of hook-ups is as high. That said, there also appears to be anecdotal evidence that the singles do less damage to the fish.

Looking at it overall, I think I will probably be switching predominately to singles but I will still carry some trebles. Now if only I can make up my mind which singles to use and whether I should be rigging assists instead of the hook directly onto a split ring!  ???

Luke Wyrsta:
I have rather limited experience in regards to singles but i prefer all hooks on stickbaits to be singles (10/0).

On some of the really big pencil chuggers (30cm +) i currently rig them with a 12/0 single on the belly and an 8/0 treble on the rear. Given the already heavy weight of the lure by itself i am considering downsizing each by one size. Hook-ups on this have been great.

Haven't experimented at all with singles on chuggers though. Don't think i could get used to a chugger without trebles...they would look funny!

Lately my single hooks have been Decoy Cutlass JS-2 in 10/0 (12/0 size). I have used other Decoy singles in the past and they have been great.

Greg Burt:
Do you use singles on a split ring or a swivel like on the big bibless lures.
I sometimes put singles/swivels on my bigger bibed lures for pelagics and one day maybe catch a Billie on one.
I have a photo of a Sailfish caught on a Popper with a big single hook on a swivel, a 'wow' photo :o.
Q: Can we post photos?

Luke Wyrsta:

--- Quote from: GPB on March 15, 2007, 11:25:27 AM ---Do you use singles on a split ring or a swivel like on the big bibless lures.
I sometimes put singles/swivels on my bigger bibed lures for pelagics and one day maybe catch a Billie on one.
I have a photo of a Sailfish caught on a Popper with a big single hook on a swivel, a 'wow' photo :o.
Q: Can we post photos?

--- End quote ---

I prefer to use split rings and assits only when attaching single hooks.

Yes you can post photos Greg. I will post some instructions as some people have been having problems.

I believe the lure in the photo is known as a "Ranger".

Neil:
Hi all

Singles work really well in lures with a constant retrieve - like a trolled stickbait. Not so keen on them in cast lures, my experience has been a drop off in hook ups overall. Of course in mega fish rich areas the cost and sheer availability of trebles as well as damage to fish may overide other factors.
On the strength issue one has to realise the pressures involved with big Gt's, about the same as 37 to 60kg game gear!!  So look at the hooks they're using, 11/0 and bigger 7691s, would you use a treble made up of three of these?  Because that's what you will need to resist bending at this level of force. Gt trebles bend in extreme situations, get used to it, it's just part of the challenge.

Neil

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