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Gareth Branicki:
Thanks for all the previous help on twisted leaders grabbed some black magic for practicing using 2 methods one with powerdrill when my wife is in a good mood and the other by looping it around a metal post in the backyard and and tying to the bail of a spinning reel doing  alright also thanks for the photos somewhere on the forum in regards to the braid join and making sure the braid doesn't bunch up at the top of the loop.   One coment i got in my twisted leaders post was to learn single knot connections.
I am fine with the pr knot but i am wondring how short i can realistically get away with in terms of lenght of the wrapped part and the overall length as i would like to cast this through the guides without fear that it will take a guide out.  Can it be used inside the guides or only outside .

I have tried repeatedly to tie the fg knot watched heaps of utube etc till nearly going insane,  i have small hands and they are not very dextrous as for the vids that show the wrist twising method i am hopless. considered getting the ezy knotter but tend to only  trust knots ive tied by hand myself wether a bimini improved allbright uni  double uni etc can do all of these on the rocks without even thinking but the fg knot has got me stumped if anybody lives in brisbane or knows where i can get a good demonstation of this knot would be great as i'm so close to throwing the towel in after over a year of playing wth this particular knot 
cheers
gareth

Peter Childs:
Gareth, have a chat to Doug Lindsay, he can show you the basic technique.  Then open a bottle wine and practice, practice, practice - you'll have it nailed before you know it. 

They still take a little time to tie (a bit longer than a double uni - and youl need to carry a lighter) but the results are well worth the effort.

And yes, you are doing all this, so they can go through the guides.

Chris Young:
An easy way to make twisted leaders on your own:
1.  Big overhand loop in 100lb mono to put over trailer hitch or similar anchor point
2.  pull out about 6m of line and cut, put this end in the drill chuck.
3.  Twist single strand of mono until you feel it shorten by about a foot, usually takes about 30-40 sec on high speed. Make sure you keep the line under reasonable tension so it doesn't twist yet.
4.  Now with the drill in hand still connected to the line double it around another anchor point, I use a screw driver in a rod holder on the boat. Keep the tension on not twisting yet.
5.  Grab the loop off the trailer hitch and put it on the handle of the power drill so you now have the line doubled over the screwdriver and both ends on the drill but appart by about 6 inches.
6.  Put the drill on the floor, make sure the line doesn't twist yet until you can take the loop end off the screwdriver
7.  Carefully let the line start to twist back towards the drill
8.  Tie a granny knot in the drill end and it is done. you can then do 4 strand bite section by hand

This sounds complicated but it is a lot easier than typing it out and it will produce a nice tight leader, give it a go

FG is not a difficult knot but it's much easier to learn if shown, and there's lots of ways to do it!

Gareth Branicki:
Thanks for the replies peter i will give doug a bell and see when on a weekend his got a small bit of time to run through it with me . Chris thanks for the extra help with the twisties  defiantly give that a go
cheers gareth

Greg Burt:
I'm now into a hybrid 'Sebile' and 'FG' knot, have a look at the Sebile knot on You-Tube and do the cross-wraps that way from the rod tip, then finish with the half hitches as a normal FG knot.

How to tie a Sebile Knot by Jay Withers a Saltyshores How to Series.

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