Extreme Jigging: Dogtooth Tuna, Yellowtail Kingfish (Hiramasa), Amberjack, Samson Fish > Tackle & Techniques
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Mark Harris:
--- Quote from: Lazaros Tsenesidis on February 18, 2011, 07:54:36 PM ---You reply makes me happy but more questions are coming in my head now.
1) Sorry but my english is not perfect so i need you to explain "short shanked hooks"
2) You mentioned owner sj41/51 hooks what numbers-size do you use for slim size jig (when i say slim i mean 2-3 cm width)
Thanks for the help mate i am in the process of making my own hooks that is why i am asking all these questions.
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Short shanked hooks are the compact type with not too much (it is very hard to explain without using the word shank.. LOL!) "distance" between the eye and the base of the hook. If you look at an Owner SJ41 (short shank) and Owner Jobu (long shank) you will see what I mean I think.
Owner SJ41
Owner Jobu
On size, it depends on what species you are targeting, but I tend to go big. For jigging of "normal" deep reef species like Amberjack, GT, Dogtooth, big snappers etc I would use for example SJ41 in size 13/0 or 9/0 and SJ51 in 11/0 or 9/0 with a regular shaped 400 to 600 gram jig. Obviously much smaller jigs should be rigged with smaller hooks as you will tend to be targeting smaller fish in gentler current conditions.
Here is a pic of one of my rigged jigs, 400 gram centre-weighted type with a SJ41 13/0 on a double 260lb kevlar cord.
Jamie Moir:
--- Quote from: Mark Harris on February 18, 2011, 08:22:04 PM ---I would recommend the doubled cord method of tying assists (as in Gman's tutorial which I linked) and not the single cord method in the link that Jamie posted. Apart from anything else there is only one knot involved rather than 2. Also that guy is tying the assist to a split ring - definitely not recommended for reasons of abrasion IMO.
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"That Guy" is also this forum's Kasey Leong and I'm sure its only for demonstration purposes as you can see all assists shown in the first image are tied to solid hooks.
I also use the double method, and its pretty foolproof, but I think that the method shown is probably better for the solid braid for light jigging.
Mark Harris:
--- Quote from: Jamie Moir on February 18, 2011, 10:13:37 PM ---
--- Quote from: Mark Harris on February 18, 2011, 08:22:04 PM ---I would recommend the doubled cord method of tying assists (as in Gman's tutorial which I linked) and not the single cord method in the link that Jamie posted. Apart from anything else there is only one knot involved rather than 2. Also that guy is tying the assist to a split ring - definitely not recommended for reasons of abrasion IMO.
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"That Guy" is also this forum's Kasey Leong and I'm sure its only for demonstration purposes as you can see all assists shown in the first image are tied to solid hooks.
I also use the double method, and its pretty foolproof, but I think that the method shown is probably better for the solid braid for light jigging.
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Oh my :-[. How embarrassing :0. I know Kasey personally. Whoops. Sorry Kasey.
I am though sure some folks will look at that and think the demo is saying the right thing to do is to tie the assist to a split ring. I did not notice the others at first glance. Reading the whole thread through, I see that Kasey did explain that you should not tie to a split ring!
I am not sure what you mean by solid braid for light jigging? PE cord maybe? When I light jig, I still use doubled kevlar looped through the solid ring, just in a much smaller size.
As I said in the first post, there are no definitive correct answers to any of this, just opinions :) .
Lazaros Tsenesidis:
First of all i want to thank both of you for your help
One could argue about single or double cord, single less strength and also 2 knots are always loss of strength. On the other hand single cord is less visible assist hook that can trick the fish easier?
I am using the way as the one Mark has shown in his post. My mistake i thing is related with the size of the hook.
I need to say that i am mostly using small size jigs 60-130gr and specially from shore as i am doing mostly shore jigging, the technique is not so different from vertical just the size of fish is smaller. :-[
So up to now i have been using owner sj 41/51 No 2 and 3 but i see they are too small since the open part of the hook is not bigger than the width of the jig.
I saw in your photos Mark that you use a swivel and a solid ring that i have not seen before double loop solid ring, can i ask why swivel? And also what is this solid ring (model/maker)?
Mark Harris:
Those figure of 8 solid rings are from Taiwan. I know Jigging Master make one but I think this is a different brand. I buy them from Kaiser in Singapore. See: http://kaiser-pro-shop.blogspot.com/2010/06/new-arrivals-for-june-2010.html
I always use swivels as I jig with a spinning set up. The line twists can get fairly horrible without a swivel. The one pictured is a NT Power Swivel size 3/0.
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