thanks patrick for the links.. great insight and review of each reel! i must admit i am a hardcore daiwa fan but now, i'm slowly leaning towards the stellas/twinpowers cause i've witnessed how capable these reels can be too.. i must be a biased arse before cause i was very much against shimano when the reel i was using back then (many eons ago, an old generation Aernos 5000) gave up on me when i was fighting a 2kg+ snapper.. but with further education, i am now better equipped with more intimate knowledge of both set of reels..