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Big Trebles - Which is best!?

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Ben Rivers:
Guys,

For big lures - Poppers and Stickbaits - Which do people prefer and why?

Decoy GT Special 10/0 - Approx $12.50 Each
Gamakatsu Recorder 8/0 - Approx $8.50 Each
Owner ST-76 5/0 - Approx $4 Each
Shogun Extreme 10/0 - Approx $6 Each

Additionally, these appear to be the largest of each brand, how do they compare in size to each other?

Cheers Ben

Mark Harris:
I have never used a Shogun Extreme of any size, so cannot comment on those.

The Decoys are an insane price, but as you might expect they are very good hooks.  Frankly though I am not going to regularly cast any lure with $25 of hooks on it.

Gamakatsu GT Recorders are also excellent hooks. There is something about the profile that seems to encourage a solid hook up. Whether that justifies the extra price tag compared to Owners is open to debate.  I have often found that they also corrode quite quickly, especially around the eye.

I user Owner ST66 5/0 and Owner ST76 5/0 as my regular GT lure hooks (or the same in 4/0 for smaller GT lures). Some of that has to do with cost but I would also say they are both very good hooks indeed. I remember a debate a while ago here where I think it was Brandon who put forward the argument that the thinner gauge of an ST66 actually encourages a deeper hookup, and if a big GT is going to straighten a hook, then it just will almost regardless of the gauge!  I took that on board and definitely use ST66 5/0 more than any other treble hook now.

Brandon Khoo:
oh God, I hope you don't end up losing something huge because it straightens out a ST-66 one day! What I do is use two split rings which I believe helps reduce the number of incidences of the hooks being straightened. I use stickbaits a lot and I just don't feel that softer stickbait rods are that suitable for driving in a hook with a gauge like a Shogun. Those things are like bloody grappling hooks.

Ben Rivers:
Does anyone have a selection of these hooks, and post up a pic to demonstrate the size variances, given a 5/0 is not a standard instrument of size etc.

Mark Harris:

--- Quote from: Brandon Khoo on November 20, 2011, 09:27:19 PM ---oh God, I hope you don't end up losing something huge because it straightens out a ST-66 one day! What I do is use two split rings which I believe helps reduce the number of incidences of the hooks being straightened. I use stickbaits a lot and I just don't feel that softer stickbait rods are that suitable for driving in a hook with a gauge like a Shogun. Those things are like bloody grappling hooks.

--- End quote ---

 ;D. Don't worry Brandon.  The logic makes sense to me - it is easier to drive home a narrower gauged ST66 and thereby get a more secure hook up.

I do use ST76s or GT Recorders on really large sticks and poppers. But on a "standard" set up (eg a GT3 150 or a Gamma 160) then it is ST66 5/0.

Ben, I don't have any Decoys at the moment. Otherwise I would post that pic for you. Quite why manufacturers can't agree to a size scale for hooks is absolutely silly!  The variances are huge as you have already pointed out,.

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