Sunline Pe lines

[Shaun Ossitt]

Hi Guys,
I was just wondering what peoples opions are of the Sunline Pe lines, I am part of EJ Todd's pro staff and use this brand exclusively. Now whilst this Brand seesm to have a strong following in the lightter breaking strains it doesn't seem to be mentioned at all on these boards.

I have recently set-up a popping outfit and after a bit of thought I decided to spool up with Sunline Super PE 8. Not many people maybe know but Super PE (which is a popular mid priced line) switches from 4 strand braid <40lb to 8 Braid in lines of PE 5 (50lb) up. I like the white colour (one of three choices) as this is the raw fibre, without any paint or dye, and it seems to be a little smoother, limper and marginally thinner than the Fluro yellow or drak green. Best of all a 300m spool retails for under $100, for an 8 strand PE!



http://www.ejtodd.com.au/Line/Braids_PE/Sunline_Super_PE.html

Anyone used it?

[Shaun Ossitt]

Sunline also offer another line, fresh to the market call Castaway monster Battle PE, this is an 8 braid, consisting of 4 strands of high grade dyneema and 4 strands of a PET type material with a special surface resin treatment which increases the lines smoothness and also addes abrasion resistance and a touch of memory (good for spinning reel spools). I can image that this would be the choice of GT anglers looking for an alternative to other top shelf lines. Castaway MB PE is not cheap, your looking at around $200 for a 300m spool.

http://www.ejtodd.com.au/Line/Braids_PE/Sunline_Monster_Battle_PE.html

Anyone have any feedback on these lines?

Cheers in advance...

[Graham Scott]

I have found castaway a good line. I thought my other line was sunline PE but its yellow rather than green..so not sure what I bought, whatever it is it winds knots a lot more than castaway

[Mark Harris]

Sunline's lack of "presence" on this forum (and others) has often surprised me. Not only for their PE lines but also their leader lines.   A lack of marketing outside of Japan I guess?

The price on that Castaway Monster Battle is very high.  I buy 600 metres of Varivas GT Max PE8 for $200!

[Chris Webster]

How about some free samples Shaun?

Regards,

Chris

[Michael Evans]

Have not used the monster battle for gt fishing, but fished a lot of sub PE 4 braids over the last five years (bream to kings) and now exclusively use sunline on all reels from 4 - 40 lb (castaway for >20lb).Top line, good value, can't speak highly enough of it! I am similarly interested in its applicability at higher ratings!

[Antonino Augugliaro]

I fish whit 15 and 20 LB for seabass, bluefish, dorado and other similar when I came back toItaly...  and I found Super PE Sunline have one of the best price/quality ratio for this dimension. I try also PE6 (60 lbs) and I'm quite happy about it at now (I didn't fish a lot with 60 lbs, so is no possible to said more).

[Brandon Khoo]

It is more a case that those of us who started early in this sport used what we could get out hands on and people have followed suit locally. The premium line we could access was Varivas GT and accordingly, over the years, it has become regarded as THE line outside of Japan. I do note though that within Japan, there seems to be a preference for YGK Ultra Castman.

The price of Varivas locally used to be nothing short of daylight robbery but it has moderated significantly over the past 18 months to something more realistic. if EJ Todd think that they can bring a new product into the country, even with a respected name like Sunline and price it at a level way above the accepted market leader .................. well, good luck!!!   

[Son Pham]

sunline pe lines are good.  but i find that they can get very weak at the knots.  It would take some effort into trying to find the best suited knots and testing them before going for the long haul. 

[Josh Stuckey]

Does anyone have any issues with sunline in the light classes, I have a little 200 size baitcaster which I filled with 300m of 10lb. I've had a number of mid cast break offs and lost a few lures, mainly plastics up to 1/2oz heads. The line comes back looking like its exploded, have lost faith in the line which is a shame as its my favorite outfit.

The break offs have been spread across the line, from just outside the rod tip to down close to the lures.

Josh

[Gavin Chau]

I've never used it but looking at the paulusjustfishing line testing site it looks like Sunline tends to break close to its stated breaking strain

Also running some simple descriptive statistics from the data collected by the same bloke shows that under 60lbs breaking strain sunline is around twice as thick for its breaking strain as the average of all braids tested (which actually looks to be a reasonable large sample)

the 60lb is just average thickness for its actual breaking strain

from my admittedly very brief look at some data it just looks like a normal braid - although who knows? it might have some other features like high abrasion or good knot strength or something..... also there is no data for lines above 60lb which would all be 8 strand stuff so the test results could differ

Interestingly the strongest braids (actual breaking strain) for their diameter are generally the hollow braids

[Mark Harris]

Guys, please be wary of equating a breaking strain with casting breaks offs.

Shock load characteristics (eg when casting) are different to pure breaking strain (which is usually measured by gradual application of load). You can certainly find high breaking strain lines which are prone to explode when casting (I wont mention the brand!) and vice versa.

[Gavin Chau]

Hi Mark,

for sure - shock loads are another thing that there is basically no data for (at least none that I know of thats publicly available) i guess thats all anecdotal evidence

although i for one would like to know which line is prone to exploding!!! (is it pp??)

since I spend most of my time LBGing, the hookups come far too infrequently to have to worry about tackle failures as well when they finally happen... if you really can't say then i guess I will stick with JB

having said that i am currently using suffix 832 on one of my reels (which i impulse purchased and seems OK so far) - apparently it is prone to lose strength relatively quickly though so i'll probably have to change the line soonish