Biomaster sw

[Jamie Moir]

They're very close in price, especially in the 5k size.

[Dan Colebrook]

tp 10000sw $999, stella 10000sw $1199 here in nz. why wouldnt ya just get the stella? so most peps do.

[Mark Harris]

Then yep, nobody would buy a Twinpower if the prices are that close, and the Biomaster positioning there makes sense (although it is grossly inferior to a Twinpower).

Just to make sure I was not reading it wrong, just spoke a good friend here at a tackle store and the comparisons are (both export versions, not JDM, best prices after discount):

Stella SW 10000 - Rp 8,300,000
Twinpower SWA 10000  - Rp 6,000,000

38% difference.

You guys down there are getting shafted on the Twinpower prices!

[Jamie Moir]

LOL that makes a change!

[Luke Wyrsta]

That's correct, the delta between the Stella and TwinPower series wasn't big enough in price to drive sales.

A great reel but simply not sustainable.

Looks like the Biomaster will do well in it's stead!

[Robin Loi]

here in Singapore, the cheapest I could find was

- the Twinpower SW 12000HG about *S$850,
- the Stella SW 10000 (export model)was about *S$1,260, and
- the 10000 JDM Stella costs a mind-blowing of about *S$1,600..

A Stella, for most if not all anglers, is THE REEL to go to but if the missus and/or the budget doesn't allow, in my personal opinion, the TP is absolutely an able substitute.

*the prices, as I understand, fluctuates, or rather, increases with the ever growing value of the JPY; so the prices now, in accordance with the rise of the JPY, should be either the same or higher now.. 

Here's wishing all of you a very Merry Xmas!

[Robin Loi]

oh by the way, the Biomaster 8000PG costs approx S$400..

[Mark Harris]

Hey Robin, for a true like-for-like comparison, a "certain" Singapore online store has:

Stella SW 10000 $1260
Twinpower SWA 10000  $800

Both the same size, both export versions.

36% difference. That's the sort of gap there should be I think.  It seems in Australia and NZ the gap is smaller and Twinpowers do not sell because of that.

I totally agree with you that TPs are a more than able substitute. I have four of them (5000, 8000, 10000 and 12000) .  Indeed I would go as far to say that the Twinpowers are the third best range of spinning reels out there after Stella and Saltiga. Better than Twinspins and Van Staal.

[Robin Loi]

hey Mark, merry Xmas..

yes, i agree. the price gap between these 2 models is thereabout as you've mentioned although the prices can go southwards more if we're on really good terms with the store/s.

is there a certain tax in Aust and NZ that makes the TP 'unattractive'? is the price gap 'consistent' in most tackle stores? perhaps our friends in Down Under and NZ can confirm this?

[Luke Wyrsta]

hey Mark, merry Xmas..

yes, i agree. the price gap between these 2 models is thereabout as you've mentioned although the prices can go southwards more if we're on really good terms with the store/s.

is there a certain tax in Aust and NZ that makes the TP 'unattractive'? is the price gap 'consistent' in most tackle stores? perhaps our friends in Down Under and NZ can confirm this?

Hi Robin,

The product is no longer ranged, so it's irrelevant.

Many economic restraints and in particular, volume.

Luke

[Mark Harris]

Hi Luke, and Merry Xmas.

So Twinpower SW has been categorically withdrawn altogether in Australia?  Is that likely to happen elsewhere do you know?

[Luke Wyrsta]

Hi Luke, and Merry Xmas.

So Twinpower SW has been categorically withdrawn altogether in Australia?  Is that likely to happen elsewhere do you know?

Hi Mark,

It's nothing to do with a world initiative or anything. The Australian office would simply prefer to offer a reel that provides similar performance at a better value price point.

This way, there isn't X amount of any reel sitting on shelves gathering dust.

I'm sure the TP will be a mainstay coming out of Shimano Inc in Japan. I've seen quite a few in use in Tokara, i've been impressed with their performance.

[Mark Harris]

That's good to hear. Would hate to see Twinpower SW disappear.

[Dan Colebrook]

pretty sure Luke is bang on point about the volume call, especially for here in NZ anyways. by the look of what turns up on our shelf's also here we only get about 2/3 of the aus stocked items.

[Gary Krol]

Since the conversation has shifted to Twinpowers, isn't the TP SW - A version inferior to the regular TP SW?