cv 79/40 vs ep 82/38

[Dan Colebrook]

to the guys who own both or have owned both, could ya please give me a bit of a run down on your thoughts of these too against eachother. we dont get these models in nz as the blc is the most suited to our kingfish. im wanting to get either one of these as my main gt rod at some stage but wont get the chance to bend them or cast them before buying one. i have the blc 80/35 super cobra on pe6 for small gt's overseas and big kings at home but after a propper gt rod thats made for gt's too. will put my sw10000 som spool pe8 on it.
thanks heaps for your thoughts guys. dan.

[Mark Harris]

Dan, I have used both side-by-side and I think a number of other members will have as well.

Both are superb rods and both pair very nicely with the reel set-up you will be using.

Although there has been some disagreement on this before here, I think the CV79/40 has a stiffer tip and therefore handles chuggers better. I can't imagine working a GT3 150 with the EP82/38 for example, but that is fine (just) with the CV79/40.  I believe the whole EP range are very much stick-bait rods.

So if, as your message implies, you are looking for an all-round GT rod for chuggers and stickbaits, then I would personally go for the CV79/40.

[Peter Childs]

Dan

I haven't used the EP 82, but I really like the CV.  It's pretty comfy with a 125 Cubera (my goto lure when I'm lazy) but I reckon it's a bit saturated on a Cubera 150.  A GT mania 130 is about its limit from the Heru collection.  Whilst it's a fantastic rod, I would love to get my hands on an 8' verson for a little more casting distance.  If absolute distance is not an issue to you - it will be hard to beat.

[Jay Burgess]

You're pretty game asking your CV to work a 150g GT3, Mark! I tried a 150g GT2 on mine once.. and didn't really like the feel so for me I wouldn't dare try a GT3  All personal preference though. I prefer to stick to 130g sea frogs as the limit when it comes to chuggers.

[Mark Harris]

On the casting Pete, I have always found CV79/40 to cast further than you would expect from a 7 ft 9 in rod. I think that it because the rod section is pretty close to the length of an 8 ft rod. It's the handle which is some 2 inches shorter.

[Mark Harris]

I am sure there is personal preference and different techniques also Jay. I would not ask the CV79/40 to do a massive rip on a GT3 150 but it can still work it. I would regard that lure as the absolute limit and I would not choose it for the rod if I had other rods to better handle it. It's definitely OK with Cubera 150 and GT2 150 I think.  The sweetspot for a perfect chug is probably as you describe.

Dan seems to be looking for one all round GT rod though, so I think perfection is not the issue - it's more a range of what the rod can and cannot do, compromises etc.

I think those of us who own a large arsenal of GT rods striving for the perfect rod for each lure type, sometimes tend to forget that one rod will do most jobs, it just will not do those all those jobs perfectly. 

You're pretty game asking your CV to work a 150g GT3, Mark! I tried a 150g GT2 on mine once.. and didn't really like the feel so for me I wouldn't dare try a GT3  All personal preference though. I prefer to stick to 130g sea frogs as the limit when it comes to chuggers.

[Jon Li]

You're pretty game asking your CV to work a 150g GT3, Mark! I tried a 150g GT2 on mine once.. and didn't really like the feel so for me I wouldn't dare try a GT3  All personal preference though. I prefer to stick to 130g sea frogs as the limit when it comes to chuggers.

Hi Jay ,

MH79XH is the rod to use for big chuggers but the old SP78EX-H n UHL are the dedicated big chugger rods still . Currently prototype 45+ lbs rods are being tested .

Jon .

[Dan Colebrook]

wow thanks for the super fast replys guys!! really just after 1 gt rod for now to cover most situations as most of the time i chase kingys. mite even use it for bigger stickbaits for kings too from time to time. im not a massive dude so the short butt section on the cv wouldnt worry me i dont think. does the cv have a bit more grunt down low vs the ep or is it much the same?

[Peter Childs]

On the casting Pete, I have always found CV79/40 to cast further than you would expect from a 7 ft 9 in rod. I think that it because the rod section is pretty close to the length of an 8 ft rod. It's the handle which is some 2 inches shorter.

Mark, I agree, whilst it's no DJ83 MH (which Dan might consider if he is chasing a little more distance) it does cast a little better than some of the other rods around the same length due to the lighter tip. 

I don't think the length of the foregrip on the butt really comes into play when casting, as the reel stem is still the same distance from the butt as most other rods, so I am not sure you can count it as a longer rod for that reason!  The short butt (foregrip) really just limits where you can put your top hand while you fight a fish.

Nothing wrong with the DJ series Dan if you just want one rod, and might be easier to find than an EP at the moment!

[Mark Harris]

Yep, Dan if you are looking for an all round GT rod and casting distance is an issue, DJ83MH is a beauty as is Ripple Fisher GT82.

[Andy Rowe]

The EP82/38 is more parabolic than the CV79/40, the CV has more strength in the lower section (it is rated at 40 whilst the EP at 38) it is not a massive difference though, I've not yet maxed the EP but the CV has as much balls down below as a PE8 rod can have I think. So the actions of the 2 rods are a little different where the CV will tend to fold a little more in the tip section than the EP which will bend through a longer section of the rod. I agree with Mark and Peters comments on lure selection, the 150gm GT2 is the biggest chugger I've tried on the CV which works but as said there are better rods for the job. The EP obviously casts a little further and as it is longer, has a different balance being a bit more tip heavy. The EP is rated 190gm vs  CV-200gm on lure weight, I think this ratio right but max ratings not so. Being lighter the CV is easy to work all day and a pleasure to use, the EP marginally heavier but more bendy and will be easier on the angler in the fight if that is what you want, though both are ridiculously user friendly GT rods.

These rods are not specialised they are compromise rods to my mind, and have very similar abilities with popper and stickbait, kind of like a road/trail bike in the motorbike world, you can do both with the right technique but....

If i had to chose 1 it would be the CV, my only negative is the short handle, though i am tall.

[Jon Li]

Hi Andrew ,

I hope you are getting better with your cough and can get better medical advise soon , anyway while cleaning up my rods earlier today I check the compatibilities of handles to rods and found out that handles for CV79/40R-SHP and OMA92 can be interchangeable so now we know 3 rods with interchangeable handles .

I found HL TN87 can interchange with EP82/38 and EP85/36 too . 

Jon .

[Andy Rowe]

Jon,

Yep, I already new the 82/38 and HLTN87 handles worked but the others are new to me.

How long is the handle on the OM92?

Thanks for the wishes, avoid pneumonia at all costs.

Hi Andrew ,

I hope you are getting better with your cough and can get better medical advise soon , anyway while cleaning up my rods earlier today I check the compatibilities of handles to rods and found out that handles for CV79/40R-SHP and OMA92 can be interchangeable so now we know 3 rods with interchangeable handles .

I found HL TN87 can interchange with EP82/38 and EP85/36 too . 

Jon .

[Bwanna Surya]

wow thanks for the super fast replys guys!! really just after 1 gt rod for now to cover most situations as most of the time i chase kingys. mite even use it for bigger stickbaits for kings too from time to time. im not a massive dude so the short butt section on the cv wouldnt worry me i dont think. does the cv have a bit more grunt down low vs the ep or is it much the same?

Dan...EP would be my advised to you...simply the economical reason behind it....you will be able to use your current lures you used for your BLC80/35... EP would be most suited in NZ condition...just in case you require to cast it for Kings...

[Jon Li]

Hi Andrew ,

The OMA92 handle measures 830 mm overall and 480 mm from the center of the reel seat to the butt cap .

Jon .