Topwater Caranx Ignobilis: Giant Trevally (GT) > Tackle & Techniques
K Guides - is the no wind knot claim just gimmickry?
Mark Harris:
--- Quote from: Warwick Joyce on February 18, 2012, 12:31:21 PM ---Mark, what size are the first and second guides and also size of the reel (spool size)? Single or double foot guides?
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Warwick on the Blue Sniper 77/3 I am pretty sure the stripper is size 30 and the next guide size 24. Both double foot. The rest of the smaller guides are single foot. I use it mostly with a Twinpower SW 5000 loaded with PE3 or sometimes PE2.
The only wind knots I seem to get on the K-guide set up are on the size 24 (ie 2nd) guide. I am definitely not saying I get any more wind knots with K-guides. It just seems more or less the same level of occurrence. Given that the MNs are cheaper and infinitely easier to find when you need to replace one, then to me at the moment, K guides are seeming kind of pointless.
Jon Li:
Hi Mark ,
Unless you are using titanium framed K-guide for reducing overall weight of the rod , stick to MN guides . According to Konishi-san , he will only use K-guides on rods with raings below PE4 and rods with K-guides exhibit reduced casting distance , perhaps due to smaller diameter of the stripper guide .
Jon .
Brandon Khoo:
Based on the little bit of experience I have with them, Jon, I think that is why they make a size 50 for the stripper. It is because the angle of the guide is such that they felt a bigger guide was needed.
of course, that is simply conjecture on my part .........
Warwick Joyce:
--- Quote from: Mark Harris on February 18, 2012, 06:34:59 PM ---
--- Quote from: Warwick Joyce on February 18, 2012, 12:31:21 PM ---Mark, what size are the first and second guides and also size of the reel (spool size)? Single or double foot guides?
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Warwick on the Blue Sniper 77/3 I am pretty sure the stripper is size 30 and the next guide size 24. Both double foot. The rest of the smaller guides are single foot. I use it mostly with a Twinpower SW 5000 loaded with PE3 or sometimes PE2.
The only wind knots I seem to get on the K-guide set up are on the size 24 (ie 2nd) guide. I am definitely not saying I get any more wind knots with K-guides. It just seems more or less the same level of occurrence. Given that the MNs are cheaper and infinitely easier to find when you need to replace one, then to me at the moment, K guides are seeming kind of pointless.
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Interesting, I am running a sw 5k twinpower also. Also using the same size guides, out of interest can you measure from the spool lip to the first and second guide? My rod is set up as 620mm to the stripper and 820mm to the second (both measures from the lip to guide ring). It is the Kaiser Lightcast 73H.
Of course guide placement is a balance between casting and rod bend.
Jon Li:
--- Quote from: Brandon Khoo on February 18, 2012, 07:12:48 PM ---Based on the little bit of experience I have with them, Jon, I think that is why they make a size 50 for the stripper. It is because the angle of the guide is such that they felt a bigger guide was needed.
of course, that is simply conjecture on my part .........
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Hi Brandon ,
I used to own a MC Works LN733CR with K-guides for a short while , when compared side by side with a friend's BC75MLR with 30mm MN stripper guide the LN733CR can't cast longer than BC75MLR despite some 6 guys trying their best on both rods so I am not biased in my opinion . Test was done using the same reels filled with PE3 line , same thickness leader of equal lengths and various lures in an apple to apple comparison . I am still waiting for my turn to get BC75MLR or BC79LR , the former I hope but the latter I can accept ! :-\
Jon .
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