Topwater Caranx Ignobilis: Giant Trevally (GT) > Tackle & Techniques
Lure colours you love......
Mark Harris:
Rob, there is no question that fish see colour. It is more a question of HOW they see colour. On that there is much debate still I believe.
I do a fair bit of diving as well Graham and think your point about colours when surface fishing is very valid. A lot of the colours many of us seem to have success with have light and dark contrasty patterns (on the same lure), and that backs up your point about creating silhouettes against the light.
On reds and pinks, I think one of theories about why these two colours seem to work so well on deep sinking baits (eg jigs), is that they grey out very quickly at depth. And shades of grey are probably the commonest single colour on any fish. So, what we see on the surface as red or pink, the fish sees at depth as grey. That's the theory I have heard put forward anyway.
Mark Harris:
That's good to hear Brandon. I will persevere with mine then!
--- Quote from: Brandon Khoo on March 07, 2012, 08:12:17 PM ---I've got a couple of these in F5s, Mark.
I have got a couple of fish on them but haven't used them that much
--- Quote from: Mark Harris on March 07, 2012, 02:06:48 PM ---I mentioned Shell Shaping's striking rainbow spectrum colour in the original post.
I find this very attractive but have not caught a fish using the pattern yet. Has anyone else, or is this perhaps a good example of colours being for the angler rather than the fish?
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Gavin Chau:
--- Quote ---For top water I think anglers are kidding themselves about colours - You can not see colour looking up to the surface against a light (any daylight) sky. It would therefore be either light or dark - light being the colour that all natural fishes are if you look at there underside and dark probably giving more silhouette.
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this is true in deep water but in shallow areas where light is also reflected off the sea floor you'll be able to see colour looking up... also with clear plastic you'll be able to see the colour of the plastic looking up as well
actually this probably explains why the tuna fishos do well with dark colours - they're fishing in deep water with little or no reflected light upwards. whereas in shallow reefy areas where kings and gts live colour make a bigger difference
Graham Blackmore:
--- Quote from: gavin chau on March 08, 2012, 09:17:39 AM ---
--- Quote ---For top water I think anglers are kidding themselves about colours - You can not see colour looking up to the surface against a light (any daylight) sky. It would therefore be either light or dark - light being the colour that all natural fishes are if you look at there underside and dark probably giving more silhouette.
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this is true in deep water but in shallow areas where light is also reflected off the sea floor you'll be able to see colour looking up... also with clear plastic you'll be able to see the colour of the plastic looking up as well
actually this probably explains why the tuna fishos do well with dark colours - they're fishing in deep water with little or no reflected light upwards. whereas in shallow reefy areas where kings and gts live colour make a bigger difference
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I disagree. If you don't believe me try it a swimming pool (salt water can never get that clear) you won't be able to see the colour of the lure and for sure your eyes are better at colour vision than a fishes (predators typically have better motion than colour vision and colour vision is likely to be worse for aquatic animals since there is no selective advantage).
More evidence can be found from fish themselves ... ask yourself why do fish have lighter undersides. It is because it allows them to blend in with the light surface and be camouflaged from predators.
Geoff Volter:
I dont completely subscribe to the theory of colour being irrelevant on surface presentations. Many surface strikes include an element of approach from the side, or behind in which case recognition of the lure colour COULD occur. Or more to the point how many GT hits come from DIRECTLY underneath the lure, polaris style? As the fish gets higher in the water and its angle to the lure more accute, its going to see more detail on the lure.
Its a light rich environment, but its likely there would be some bubbles, disturbance etc obscuring the lure. So some contrast, flash and attract triggers (eg prominent eyes, red gills etc) could probably help, and a dark lure in this situation would most likely be easier seen. Well thats my thoughts anyway... And it makes me feel good about buying more colours! ;D
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