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Varivas Avani GT Casting Max Power PE

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Andy Rowe:
Hi Troy, can you explain in a bit more detail how you do this test?


--- Quote from: troy roberts on March 30, 2012, 08:46:58 PM ---Guys just one thing have any of you tested breaking strain of these lines i think you will be surprised if not dissapointed they dont break anywhere near there rated strengths i only tie a spidr hitch to attach to scales and get as far away as possible 10metres plus and over my popper rod lucky to pull drag before line breaks.Just somthing to look at .
May your fish be huge and your beers icy.

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troy roberts:
Yeah i tie a spider hitch in the line run line over my popper rod or whicheva rod i grab move at least 5 if not 10metres away attach scales to spida hitch and load up not never breaks the line breaks between 100mm and 1metre from knot.
Hope this helps.

may your fish be huge and your beers icy.

Mark Harris:

--- Quote from: troy roberts on March 30, 2012, 08:46:58 PM ---Guys just one thing have any of you tested breaking strain of these lines i think you will be surprised if not dissapointed they dont break anywhere near there rated strengths i only tie a spidr hitch to attach to scales and get as far away as possible 10metres plus and over my popper rod lucky to pull drag before line breaks.Just somthing to look at .
May your fish be huge and your beers icy.

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I am not sure it matters.  I can't think  I would ever fish more than 20 kgs (usually more like 12) of drag for GTs and PE8 line is not going to break in line at that drag rating.  I have caught lots of fish at 40 kgs plus on Varivas Avani GT Max  without incident. It also casts like a dream. Those are the two things that do matter.

Shock load on a line is different kettle of fish altogether and it cannot be tested by straight line pulling.  I have had shock load explosion problems with two leading lines and those are blacklisted as it is not much fun loosing $100 plus lures to such accidents.

Dmitrii Novgorodtcev:
Troy, breaking strength of any line depends a lot of its ammortization ability. PE is not stretchable, so the sharper you pull, the easier it breaks. You can explode 80LB high quality PE buy only 9-10 kg load in case you pull very very sharply. That's why we use shock leaders, twisted leaders, biminitwists and powerfull but flexible rods - all these things take a lot of load from the PE. Though I also noticed that all Japanese PE break at lower loads when they are tested with scales....

Andy, I was a little bit confused about lines with IGFA mark on them, when I knew what this mark meaned. They put this mark on the lines "which breaking strength is guaranteed to be not more than specified on the spool". in other words, in case it is 80Lb IGFA line, it should break at loads less than 80lb. It is very logic from the point of IGFA record rules, but from the point of view of a usual angler like me (not IGFA recorder), I would prefer overtest line instead of IGFA line...

I use both SMP and Avani GT MP for casting, and though I do not have long experience I can not say I noticed big difference in making windknots between these two lines so far. I was of the very good opinion of SMP till your comments of explosion... Fishing is about so many questions and doubts!

Andy Rowe:
Dmitri,

Good point on the shock load issue.

That's right on the IGFA meaning, without more information you'd have to assume that the lower breaking factor of the GT Max somehow gives it the higher resistance to shock-load breaking.

So does this equate to a different fibre used between GT Max and the 'SMP' / 'Big One' / 'Tuna' / 'casting max' PE's which are the same PE designation but different breaking strains or a difference in the way the fibre is weaved?? The coatings ... who knows but the PE diameter is the same.  :-\

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