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Varivas Avani GT Casting Max Power PE
Duncan O'Connell:
Hi Andy,
I hadn't seen the chart, now its got me confused! when I was speaking to them recently in Japan, I was told it is essentially the same line. I'll see what I can find out.
Mark Harris:
Duncan, if there is anyway you could sort that out with Varivas I am sure many of us would be eternally grateful! Like Andy and I would imagine others, I have always found the various Varivas lines very confusing. Despite that, I still rarely use anything else!
On line failures, I think your comments are spot on. I have always at least tried not to judge a line based on one incident as I realise it may well have been my fault. However, when there is a pattern of multiple breakages of the same brand, but not with others, then I think a judgement can be made.
troy roberts:
Hi all just want to say theres a lot of talk why and how the line breaks but how can i go into my backyard and tie what is arguably a pretty dodgy knot pull it over scales that have been tested using set weights and pulled slowly not jerked 100lb or pe8 line breaks at 18kgs the manufactures sent back test results saying that said line broke over there shimadzu breaktest machine on average 39.6kgs thats a lot of difference. Go test for yourself i say .
May your fish be huge and your beers icy
Peter Olesen:
Hi all
I asked Varivas about the difference between Avani GT Max Power and Avani Casting Max Power. I just got this answer from Varivas, UK:
"Hello Peter,
Thank you for your e-mail enquiry via our Varivas web site.
I am not a member of the GT Popping.com forum, so I can not
access the discussion.
I can tell you that there is no difference between the PE lines
sold as Avani GT Max Power and Avani Casting PE Max Power.
Similarly with Avani GT SMP and Avani GT SMP Casting.
Avani GT Max Power and Avani GT SMP (Super Max Power) were
originally sold only on 600M spools.
In response to customer demand, we decided to offer the same
lines, in both types, in a selection of spool lengths (200M, 300M,
400M, 500M, 600M) to suit various reel capacities.
We were also able to "add" a few smaller sizes, which didn't make
much sense in solely 600M spool lengths.
This does mean, however, that some sizes are available in 600M
spools as Avani GT Max Power and Avani Casting Max Power.
But they are exactly the same lines - and the same price list price.
I hope this helps.
If I can be of further help, feel free to contact me at this
e-mail address.
Thank you for your interest in our Varivas products.
David
David Mitchell
VARIVAS (UK)"
Then I asked about the difference in breaking strength between the two lines and got this reply:
"Hello again Peter,
PE "multi-filament" lines (braided PE) are notoriously difficult to
gauge breaking strains of with any great precision.
We would typically run tests, on a random selection of stock lines,
at 10 random positions on each line. This would give us not only the
"average" breaking strain, but also "maximum" and "minimum" breaking
strains.
The breaking strain figures published for the original Avani GT Max
Power lines were "average" breaking strains, which is the figure the
pleasure angler is really interested in.
The "maximum" bs figures are given for the Casting PE Max version
as a guide for possible IGFA record applications, etc.
We guarantee the lines will break "at or before" the maximum figures,
whereas the LB breaking strain figures shown for Avani GT Max lines
are "average", and therefore not so accurate.
With multi-filament lines, in sizes up to 100lbs or 150lbs, no manufacturer
can guarantee exact, reproducible breaking strains. The highest-quality
lines will have least margin of variation.
Hence, for example, our GT Max size #5 is shown as bs LB 70lbs,
but the Casting PE Max line size #5 is shown as MAX LB 78lbs.
The same line.
We can't tell you exactly what breaking strain the line will break at.
No manufacturer can.
But we can tell you the maximum breaking strain it will break at,
therefore guaranteeing it WILL break at-or-before that figure.
Does this all make sense? I've never tried to explain that before!
David"
So for PE10, the average BS is tested to 130 lbs where as the max BS is 137 lbs. Another parameter which would be nice to know is: What is the minimum BS? I think you could estimate it to 123 lbs whithout stretching the math too much :)
Hope it is useful to some of you.
I just bought the Casting Max Power, hence my interest.
Peter
Jason D'Angelo:
do all you boys use the pe10 gt max for popping ?
how does cast being thicker PE
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