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Carpenter's DJ 83MH for Gamma 160H and Gamma 200

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Ben Yeo:
Hello everyone!

I am new and many thanks to all who have helped steepen my learning curve.

Question:
I was thinking of getting another GT rod and was wondering if the DJ 83 MH would be suitable for Gammas up to 200grams.
Basically: is it a good stickbait rod or is it more suited to work chuggers.
(I know the specs say lures up to 230)
Pairing it with a Stella 10000 on a SOM spooled with PE8.

Cheers
Ben

Ben Furness:
For me it seems to work for stickbaits to about 180g max but is perfect for stick baits 150g and less. The tip is a bit soft and casting anything bigger starts to get pretty hard. It works poppers up to about 150g pretty good but works them best at around 120g.

Mark Harris:
Ben Y,  first I think a Stella 10000/16000 spool/PE8 is a really nice combination with DJ83MH.

I would slightly disagree with Ben F about the chugger capabilities of the rod. I think it is absolutely sweet with chuggers around 150 grams - for me something like a Cubera 150 is the perfect chugger for this rod. 

It will definitely cast an work big sticks to 200 grams OK. It would not be the perfect rod for that but it is certainly OK.

If you are looking for just one rod Ben, then compromises are required.  For the type of lures you mention, this rod is a  good compromise solution. 

Ben Yeo:

--- Quote from: Mark Harris on April 11, 2012, 12:09:36 PM ---Ben Y,  first I think a Stella 10000/16000 spool/PE8 is a really nice combination with DJ83MH.

I would slightly disagree with Ben F about the chugger capabilities of the rod. I think it is absolutely sweet with chuggers around 150 grams - for me something like a Cubera 150 is the perfect chugger for this rod. 

It will definitely cast an work big sticks to 200 grams OK. It would not be the perfect rod for that but it is certainly OK.

If you are looking for just one rod Ben, then compromises are required.  For the type of lures you mention, this rod is a  good compromise solution.

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Thanks, Ben/Mark

Perhaps i should have asked the question better - my bad :-[

This is what I have:
1)Ocean Revolution GT explorer/Stella 10000 : I absolutely love this combo for El Toro/Cubera 150s
2)RF 79R/Twinpower 12000: Throwing sticks up to 140grams but mostly in the 120gram range, very comfortable.
3)Carpenter LR86/Stella10000: Sticks up to 150. Finding it a little unwieldy at 8"6" but nevertheless like it for it ease of getting baits out there.

I have a couple of Gamma 160H and 200s for which what I have cannot handle (the GT explorer - ok but almost maxing out with the 160H).

Rephrasing:
What would be a good rod to use for Gamma 160H/200, Pandora 155+30?
Does not need to be a carpenter and a flexibility to work chuggers would be an advantage thou not a necessity.

Thanks again
Ben

Mark Harris:

--- Quote from: BenYeo on April 11, 2012, 02:57:21 PM ---
--- Quote from: Mark Harris on April 11, 2012, 12:09:36 PM ---Ben Y,  first I think a Stella 10000/16000 spool/PE8 is a really nice combination with DJ83MH.

I would slightly disagree with Ben F about the chugger capabilities of the rod. I think it is absolutely sweet with chuggers around 150 grams - for me something like a Cubera 150 is the perfect chugger for this rod. 

It will definitely cast an work big sticks to 200 grams OK. It would not be the perfect rod for that but it is certainly OK.

If you are looking for just one rod Ben, then compromises are required.  For the type of lures you mention, this rod is a  good compromise solution.

--- End quote ---

Thanks, Ben/Mark

Perhaps i should have asked the question better - my bad :-[

This is what I have:
1)Ocean Revolution GT explorer/Stella 10000 : I absolutely love this combo for El Toro/Cubera 150s
2)RF 79R/Twinpower 12000: Throwing sticks up to 140grams but mostly in the 120gram range, very comfortable.
3)Carpenter LR86/Stella10000: Sticks up to 150. Finding it a little unwieldy at 8"6" but nevertheless like it for it ease of getting baits out there.

I have a couple of Gamma 160H and 200s for which what I have cannot handle (the GT explorer - ok but almost maxing out with the 160H).

Rephrasing:
What would be a good rod to use for Gamma 160H/200, Pandora 155+30?
Does not need to be a carpenter and a flexibility to work chuggers would be an advantage thou not a necessity.

Thanks again
Ben

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Ah..... now I understand :)

First for Pandora 155+30, I would say don't worry to much about it. The lure is designed to sink deep and be worked with a simple tip-beating retrieve. Any rod that can cast the lure weight will be fine. Your Ocean Revolution will probably deal with that (what is the stated max lure size?). DJ83MH would certainly handle it (I was using that rod with a Bigfoot 180 for example just yesterday).

At this stage, finding a specialist rod to handle both Gamma 160 and Gamma 200 might require a move to the Ripple Fisher Ultimo range.  I will leave others to comment on which Ultimo, as I am not so familiar with them.  DJ83MH will cast both Gamma sizes OK but it is not a specialist stick bait rod. Same goes for it cousin Monster Hunter 80H.  Gamma 160s work beautifully with EP 82/38 and CV 79/40, but Gamma 200s are a bit heavy for them.

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