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Brandon Khoo:
Jon, I really don't understand what Shimano thought they were doing with the Caranx. The rod is intended as a SE Asian model but the butt on it is intended for a basketball player! Unless they intended the rod to be used with a gimbal that was hanging around the knees of your average SE Asian male, I really have no idea who the rod was aimed at.

For the WV83, I tend to hang the gimbal belt a couple of inches lower and its fine.



--- Quote from: Jon Li on February 27, 2008, 05:40:27 PM ---Brandon ,

What is your opinion on the length of the offset handle of Caranx Kaibutsu ? It's even longer than the LDC handle of WV83XH , SP710H SHP n LR89DC .

Yu Hock ,

I suggest you lower the position of your gimbal belt to be comfortable with longer handle of popping rods and adjust it higher for trolling rods .

Jon .

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67er:
Yes Jon, been doing that to counter the problem. Thanks for your constructive suggestion it is just that I wasn't used to it and the thought of short handle that I borrowed from the Stand-up big game rod came to mine. Prior to the Japanese long popping rods we were using 7 footer rod with short handles. 

Oh yes lord Brandon, I am of great honour to be able to amuse you ;D Come to think of it, there might be hundreds and thousands of short arms like myself out there considering the sale of short handle Standup tackle during the heydays. Maybe there is a large enough market for it ;)

Jon Li:

--- Quote from: Brandon Khoo on February 27, 2008, 06:05:57 PM ---Jon, I really don't understand what Shimano thought they were doing with the Caranx. The rod is intended as a SE Asian model but the butt on it is intended for a basketball player! Unless they intended the rod to be used with a gimbal that was hanging around the knees of your average SE Asian male, I really have no idea who the rod was aimed at.


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Hi Brandon ,

I had a discussion the Shimano guy in Singapore on Caranx Kaibutsu , of course I told him that I am affiliated with another brand first before started the " discussion " , the long handle is supposedly for " new style " of popping rod , according to him but prior to that , while in Bali with Chris Harrison we check the rod in Shimano showroom there , even for Chris who is over 6' tall the handle is a bit too long for comfortable fighting stance so I really am not sure what was the intention for that longer handle .

In Indonesia , Caranx Kaibutsu has a new nickname : " Kalang Kabut " rod which mean Totally Out of Control rod due to it's too long a handle and too skinny EVA foregrip making it hard to grasp when fighting a strong fish . A few who have bought Caranx Kaibutsu rods have cut the butt between 5~6 cm to make it more comfortable to fight the fish .

Jon .

Brandon Khoo:
Jon, to me, the regional guys who made the decision to go with the specs of the rod simply got it wrong. As you know, Chris is a big man with long arms and if he found its length to be outside his comfort level, I'm just not sure what they were doing considering the market the rod was developed for. I don't have any doubt that the rod, with its long butt section would cast beautifully but it would be a handful to fight a fish with. The blank is a very capable blank but to me at least, the specs just were not ideal for the market the rod was sold into.

I have heard the statement "new style of popping rod" associated with the Caranx before but I am not sure what it means.

It's a relatively easy task to get the rod shortened and any decent rod craftsman can do this in short time. Even with the skinny EVA foregrip, this can be built up easily. The thing is you shouldn't have to do this

Hon-Su Chin:
I think the idea is to have more leverage for casting, especially in the LP, PI and LC. Also it allows you to use medium to heavy standup gimbal setups with the rods, like you said, fishing with a lower gimbal setup. This way you're not using you back so much. Bend you knees to lift the rod.

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