Topwater Caranx Ignobilis: Giant Trevally (GT) > Tackle & Techniques
Anyone with experience with T-Russell and Seed GT blanks?
Jon Li:
--- Quote from: Daniel Chee on February 28, 2008, 08:00:37 PM ---
Abit of interesting read, the grip size was decided after testing with a focus group of anglers, where different sizes of grips were used to see which allowed the angler to exert the most force, and at the same time also hang on to a dead load for the longest period of time.
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Hi Dan ,
The problem with " static " test is that , what really happens during the real time may somewhat differ .
For example , putting the gimbal lower , say the bottom part of the gimbal just above the knee may proved to be cumbersome when you have to move around the boat to anticipate the movement of the active fish , for me the most favourable position is to have the fulcrum of the rod butt at just about where my vital part is , with Caranx Kaibutsu long handle , this is not possible by a long shot .
As for grip , too small a grip feel slippery around my gloved hands which in real time , must move as one pumps the rod ( upand down ward as well as sideways ) , again to counteract the movements of the fish , I wud prefer a bit more diameter for the foregrip than the one on Caranx Kaibutsu .
Jon .
Daniel Chee:
Hi Jon,
Obviously after "static" tests were done, real time tests had to follow to verify the specs.
Cheers
--- Quote from: Jon Li on February 28, 2008, 11:47:11 PM ---
--- Quote from: Daniel Chee on February 28, 2008, 08:00:37 PM ---
Abit of interesting read, the grip size was decided after testing with a focus group of anglers, where different sizes of grips were used to see which allowed the angler to exert the most force, and at the same time also hang on to a dead load for the longest period of time.
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Hi Dan ,
The problem with " static " test is that , what really happens during the real time may somewhat differ .
For example , putting the gimbal lower , say the bottom part of the gimbal just above the knee may proved to be cumbersome when you have to move around the boat to anticipate the movement of the active fish , for me the most favourable position is to have the fulcrum of the rod butt at just about where my vital part is , with Caranx Kaibutsu long handle , this is not possible by a long shot .
As for grip , too small a grip feel slippery around my gloved hands which in real time , must move as one pumps the rod ( upand down ward as well as sideways ) , again to counteract the movements of the fish , I wud prefer a bit more diameter for the foregrip than the one on Caranx Kaibutsu .
Jon .
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67er:
--- Quote from: Daniel Chee on February 28, 2008, 08:15:56 PM ---Hi Yu Hock,
When I first started popping about 10 years back, there were hardly any purpose built rods that were available for us to use. That period before the influx of Japanese rods that came in saw us experimenting with quite a few different blanks to get something to suit our needs. One of the better working ones was a 2 pc Graphcast which was from CD if I remember correctly. If you dont mind a mid joint blank, the rod was not excessively stiff and yet had pretty reasonable power for mid size GTs to 30kg. Probably could be close to what you wanted if you wished to do your short butt pop rod.
--- Quote from: Yu Hock on February 28, 2008, 07:48:46 PM ---
--- Quote from: Brandon Khoo on February 28, 2008, 07:22:10 PM ---But baitcasting blanks are built primarily for accuracy, not distance. For distance with a GT rod, I cannot see how you can possibly cast a short handled rod as far as a longer handled rod. It is a simple matter of leverage
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Never mind if it is not for distance. We are discussing about the furthest one can hit with 3 types of handle to conclude that short or longest handle is not necessary the right or wrong thing. It is all about using the right handle length for different action of blanks. There is a right balance to every blank and angler; the longest of handle will mean a shorter length to load and propel the popper. Too short a handle on a stiff and long rod will create too great a leverage against the angler. We gone down that path before on how I cant find the right rod to build.
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Thanks Dan, but I got a FOC one from a manufacturer to work on. Just need to rework on the butt section a little to find my own sweet spot. Will definitely try your low mount method when opportunity arises. ;)
Chris Leong:
Am about to set out getting ready for mi Maldives popping trip in March 09. Saw this rod in shop. Was advised by my kakis on board the same trip to try the rod out first due to its long butt.
Here, i read about Dan giving advise on using a lower mount belt to counter the effect of the long butt. Im using a OEM belt which was mounted, quite similar to a Sevensea belt. Im pretty sure, this would make mi stance very cumbersome due to the long butt. So i asked, which belt u guys have in mind that would suit the Kaibutsu without breaking the back and the bank?
Im looking at the 8'6 model. Would matching it with a Ryobi Safari be good?
An OT question here, Would a Ryobi Safari filled with Avani GT PE 5 be enough for the GTs in Maldives?
Sachin Chaudhry:
Hi Stockie. I use my Deep Monster Kaibutsu a fair bit. I personally like it and the long butt in my opinion is to enable a bit more leverage. I use a fairly wide gimbal belt with it. Made by Braid. A bit heavy but comfortable. I am 5 feet 11 and weigh 90kg. Also enjoy using my Wild Violence 80HX but have not found a fish big enough to seriously load it yet.
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