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Overhead versus spinning reel

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Greg Burt:
Cam, christened the Stella 8000 with a jigged Bonnito last week.
 Gave the Spheros a run on the Samurai but no luck, feels really good.
 Do you want 'T' or round Stella handle?, I've got both here, they are the same as our 20000s.
 I think KC is now leaning towards the 'T", I took a spare full handle out last week and changed handles half way through a jigging session so he could compare.
 I've got 4 'T' handles here, I think 1 was yours and you ended up with 2 round.
 Bun

Andrew Woodley-Page:
Deep water + PE8 + heavy jigs 400-600g = overhead
medium depth + PE5-6 + 200 to 350g jigs = either
shallow to medium depth + PE2-4 + 100-200g jigs spinning reels more versatile

there are exceptions to the above depending on target species, geography etc but the above is my general guidelines.

Andrew

Greg Burt:
Andrew,
 What depths do you call as deep and medium ?.
 I found the overhead harder then the spinner using 250-400grm jigs in 60-100mt, the overhead was a Accurate 665HC which I think was actually a 665XHC [6.0-1 ratio].
Greg

Andrew Woodley-Page:
Hi Greg

As you suspect, the ratio is the problem there......whilst most would think a 6:1 overhead is good for jigging, it is just awful.  Whilst beautiful reels, I don't like Torsas for that reason, and whilst I love my 665 - if I owned his high speed brother - well....that reel would as does yours relegated to more shallow work.  My reels are mostly either 4:1 (Accurate 665) or 4.9:1 (Progear Oceanus).  The Oceanus gears are cut on an angle which gives increased cranking efficiency and allows the slightly higher ratio.

In addition, standard crank arms on most overhead reels are pathetic and no good for jigging, way too short.  I replaced the 665 arm with a jigging master power arm (11.5cm) which gives you much better power and speed.  Look at Shimano OJ 'vs' trinidad - same thing.  While we are on the topic, one way bearing anti-reverses are of limited strength, the JM double docking set fixes this.  Add a JM T-Bar and you have a perfect reel for jigging - or just buy an Oceanus with all these features built in!  Fellas, this isn't meant to sound like an advert, just that JM design after market upgrades to make already good products better.

Anything deeper than 100m I would call deep water.  Most of our metro jigging is done in 90-125m (mainly 110m) and I intend to try a couple of spots in 190m this winter (for giant AJ's!!!)

Andrew

Cam Foley:
um go the round knob the T seems to give me a blister have not tried it with my new smith gloves though .

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