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Daiwa Dogfight - what is it good for?

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Brandon Khoo:
I know one of our other members here broke a couple of the 4500s at the stem. I'd be interested to know whether he had the T bar handle on them. Tell you what, I'd be pretty damn pissed off if that happened to my reel irrespective of whether I had an aftermarket handle or not!! I'd be posting pictures of it everywhere if they refused the warranty claim because of that



--- Quote from: Andrew Poulos on April 04, 2007, 07:40:40 PM ---Yep, I know where you are coming from Luke. I havent had as much experience with the reels to know, but its mainly been from people I have spoken too in various areas.

The breakages happened on a few reels where the owners put on the t bar handle which is only meant to be used with the overhead reels. This T bar and pushing the 4500s to the limit caused leverage issues and snapped a few at the stem. The dogfighter has brass inserts in the stem, but I don't know if they add to the structural integrity. I haven't heard of any such issues with the 6500 series of reels. Daiwa wont, or will give you a hard time if you try to do a warranty claim on a saltiga threadline that has had this t bar put on.
 
The waterproofness, was something that was meant to be better for the drags and the spool....never dunked mine so cant validate how much water gets in. There is a difference in the metal used between the 2 brands for the gears, and over time the daiwa was supposed to win out. Again, they havent been around long enough to prove it.

The dogfighter is the new kid on the block, and I chose to follow the different path based on people I spoke too, and lots of reading and research. I was going to start off with a spheros, then a beefed up spheros, to a stella, and then ended up going Daiwa. Im not questioning the stellas as they have a proven track record with these models or sound anti shimano as I have both brands.

Either way, both are exceptional reels, and I say alot of the  comments people make area bit like ford vs holden. These reels are in the top class of threadlines and perform as such.

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Jon Li:
DogFight 6500 is nothing more than Z6000GT with #6500 spool + optional grip , all painted BLACK ! All cosmetic + more line capacity and still must be upgraded using carbontex to perform , I wonder what Daiwa will say should one of the drag upgraded reel happen to break ?

Daiwa did raise that question whether I use different drag washers when I broke my Z4500 when fishing YFTs , ask Eric Le Guyader how he broke his Z6000GT and another guy from Brazil who broke the handle . I think Luke can help dig out the threads from a European forum .

For me Stella 10000HG is still my choise for big GT but yes I find them to be a little too heavy and prefer my old '98 Stella 16000F but then you guys shouldn't have that problem .

Jon . 

Brandon Khoo:
Jon - hang on - they asked whether you had upgraded the drag to carbontex? Why?! Were they wanting to argue that the carbontex resulted in two much drag and that was why the reel snapped at the stem?! HUH?

voodoo:
Thanks to everyone who has contributed to this thread.

This is a truly high quality forum. 

Andrew Poulos:
No worries Josh..

Some more info for you re saltiga range

6000 is medium capacity, lower gear ratio
6000GT is smaller capacity casting spool, high gear ratio
6500 Expedition is large spool, lower gear ratio, golf ball handle
6500 Dogfight is Expedition with high gear ratio

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