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Twisted Leaders or Single Strand ?

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Brandon Khoo:
Earl, on the issue of shock absorption, I'm not sure that twisties are actually better. Some of the Japanese leaders are made specifically for use as single strand leaders and are made with an amazing level of elasticity in them. Fisherman shock leader is one.

For me,it is a debate which I have little interest in. I use what I have confidence in and it works for me. I can't understand why some people try to enforce their views over others in this regard when it is clear that both systems work and have worked over the period of time. The twisted leader proponents will argue that the single strand attachment cannot be trusted and is too time-consuming to tie, that it has superior abrasion qualitites etc and the single strand leader camp argues it casts better, that twisties are visible in the water, that the way twisted leaders are finished with a nail knot or a bite leader is a weak point etc etc. I've pretty sure I've heard it all over time. I can only encourage you to understand the strengths and weaknesses of each and that whatever system you use, you learn to tie it properly. Your knots and attachments will take care of you if you take care when tying them.

Earl Hamilton:
I must try to get hold of some of these shock leader products and give them a whirl when I get the chance, as I feel they could offer a solution. I have only seen them mentioned here for popping, apart from those that have been around in the fly fishing world which do not have the breaking strains required for heavy popping, but thats why I do come here to learn from others who have the experience, and I thank you all for that. 25 years ago it was not possible to interact with imformation the way we can today on the internet.
As for knots, I'm also a fly fisherman, and knots have to be learned, perfected and trusted, or your left in a world of frustration-popping and jigging is no different in this respect.

Andrew Poulos:
I'm landbased and fish off the rocks and have changed from twisted leaders to a single strand for a try for a few reasons:
#longer length of single leaders to prevent braid hitting the rocks
#easier to cast(though not too sure how much)
#less visible in clear conditions
#hopefully a bit more stretch to reduce pulled hooks

I was using twisted leaders made from 60 or 80lb lines, and now am using a single of 100lb in black magic leader. Braid bites into the supple one quite well. Will see how that goes and may go up to 125lb next for my usual targets. I've used a PR knot, and will just carry twisted leaders with me should I need to replace on location as I wont be sitting on the rocks using a bobbin to put together a new rig.

Brandon Khoo:
I think that is a really sensible approach, Andrew. if you need to , you can always whip up a bimimi double and attach a twisted leader. Kings are a lot more particular than GTs in what they will hit. It seems to me that a king needs to be convinced about something before it will have a bite. A GT on the other hand will hit first on suspicion.




--- Quote from: Andrew Poulos on June 01, 2008, 10:32:01 PM ---I'm landbased and fish off the rocks and have changed from twisted leaders to a single strand for a try for a few reasons:
#longer length of single leaders to prevent braid hitting the rocks
#easier to cast(though not too sure how much)
#less visible in clear conditions
#hopefully a bit more stretch to reduce pulled hooks

I was using twisted leaders made from 60 or 80lb lines, and now am using a single of 100lb in black magic leader. Braid bites into the supple one quite well. Will see how that goes and may go up to 125lb next for my usual targets. I've used a PR knot, and will just carry twisted leaders with me should I need to replace on location as I wont be sitting on the rocks using a bobbin to put together a new rig.


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