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Duncan O'Connell:
Hi Mark
I have randomly broken a couple of FG knots when tightening up the line, I think it has to do with the way the line lays into the knot. As David says it is an issue with the way the knot is constructed. If it keeps breaking then there is probably a problem with the line - I'm sure it is not due to your knot tying technique.

I have come across the odd dud spool of braid from virtually every manufacturer I have ever dealt with, from the cheapest to the most expensive. It is very rare, and in 11 years in business I've seen a lot of line go out the door. Mostly the braid ends up being damaged because of a handling issue of one sort or another (I can say I have seen a lot of different ways to trash a spool of braid over the years) but occasionally you do come across a faulty one.

I have both Monster Battle and Avani Casting/Avani GT on all my big reels. I've been using the Monster Battle since the first batch arrived in Australia (long enough to have worn out a couple of spools of it through normal wear and tear) and I haven't had any significant issues apart from what I'll detail below.
What I think can be a problem is if the line roller isn't functioning properly, the lines twist up which causes reduction of the shock loading capability of the braid. Monster Battle has a flatter profile (which I think helps with it's casting performance) than Avani Casting and it could be more susceptible to damage from line twisting. I know of two cases (one was on my reel) where a sticky line roller has caused severe line twist in Monster Battle, followed by shortly after by random line breakages.

I don't know if the line twist is relevant to your spool, but I think it is worth mentioning as something worth looking out for in all braids.

Cheers
Duncan

Trevor Skinner:
Mark,

I suspect that Duncan is right on the money.

As you know, I've had it fail and wondered at the time whether there had been any 'mechanical' damage to the line since portions of it lightened in colour after only light use.

I replaced that with another spool full of the Sunline and have also used it since then on a couple of other reels with no problems at all.

Regards,


Trev

 

Mark Harris:
Hi Duncan

Many thanks for the input and the line twist point seems very logical. 

The PE10 Monster Battle in question has been used on a Dogfight 7000H and there is no noticeable line twist.  I also stripped a fair bit and tried several times to re-tie knots with different sections of line and each time the line snapped on the tighten. That does imply to me that we are not talking about a specific section of line that has been damaged in some way by use. 

I should probably explain the knot mechanics before the snaps occurred - 12 FG wraps and 2 half hitches to hold them in place and then a big tighten using pullers... snap.  So this is BEFORE the main set of half hitches over the leader and before any tying off of the knot.  I am a bit bewildered.

It is though encouraging to hear that you have used the line without issues to the point where it wore out.

Maybe I have just been very unlucky with this spool.

Jon Li:
Hi Mark ,

When tigthening the knot , heat is produced and especially in the tropic , can cause problem . This was explained by the winner of knot competition in Japan when I visited SFPC show , namely Mr. Kaname Kon . He even let me touch the knot and feel the heat generated while he tighten the knot slowly to prove his point .

That is the reason why it is necessary to lubricate the knot while tightening process is being done and this is standard practice even when tightening any knot , be it PE line , Dacron or Monofilament .  Heat dissipation is the key not to " burn " the dyneema fibers which cause the breaking of the line .

Jon .

Andy Rowe:
Good point Jon, I always wet the line before the big tighten.

Mark, PE 10 should be hard to break just by tightening, it is pretty robust stuff!!

Have you cast the line by chance? I once had a cracked guide on my HLTN87, it systematically ruined over 100m of main line on that spool before i figured out what went wrong. The damage to the line was was clearly obvious to the naked eye though in this case, I gather you see no visible issue with the line.

Duncan on another note, i was interested to note you think the flatter sunline casts better than rounder varivas. I tried JB hollow in 80lb and found the flat profile caught the wind much better than round profile lines taking noticable distance off the cast in breezy conditions.

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