Topwater Caranx Ignobilis: Giant Trevally (GT) > Tackle & Techniques
Leader material for twisted leaders
Brandon Khoo:
Paul - I assume you mean "Brandon"? You must have a Nomad charter on your mind!
A couple of things - I don't recommend you use a solid ring in the bite especially if it is an Owner. I am concerned that the sharp edges of the Owner solid ring will wear through the mono. Most of us use a swivel which we attach to a popper or stickbait with a split ring. You will find the majority of experienced GT fishos won't use clips and prefer the surety of a split ring.
Assuming you are winding the mono back some 12 inches, I'm not sure how you will finish it with a uni. I'd suggest you actually finish it with some braid using a nail knot with the braid. You can then add a touch of super glue to the braid to finish it off. Check out Luke's guide on this website on how to make twisted leaders. I don't think you need to wind it back 12 inches - I only do some six inches myself.
Greg Burt:
Paul, I think you misread how Luke sometimes ties straight to a swivel with a uni knot, not after winding back.
Brandon, with the 10X leader being extra abrasive resistant, would it be advantages to come down in size?
PS: How was Noosa?, if it was last weekend you most probably flew out over top of me casting lures around Old Woman Island by Maroochy airport, I hoped you waved! ::) ;)
Luke Wyrsta:
--- Quote from: Brandon on June 11, 2007, 03:39:43 PM ---I had nothing to do this weekend in Noosa (family get together) so I made up a few twisted leaders using the Penn 10X. I think I will put this into the the "it seemed like a good idea at the time" bucket. The material is so stiff that it just doesn't feel right. I will still finish these and test them out at Bugatti but they just don't feel nice to me.
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Yes, they are stiffer but they make a good cost effective alternative. I have already tried them and they work fine - there really isn't much of an issue if you are using them for standard popping, just make sure the finish is perfect becuase the stiffness can cuase issues with getting your nail knots to bite etc. - still a bit of an issue that is inherent with making them out of fluorocarbon which i don't hear anybody complaining about? obviously, fluorocarbon is unncessary but people still make them out of the material - stickbaits and monster fish, that is another story where you would want to use softer, more supple leader and better quality respectively.
Luke Wyrsta:
--- Quote from: Paul Taylor on June 11, 2007, 08:11:32 PM ---Damon,
I am using 100lb Momoi and I am having trouble with finishing the knot off once ihave come back on the bite.
I am placing a solid ring in the bite and running back up about 12 inches, I was told to use a uni knot but it has got me stuffed.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Regards Paul
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Paul,
Check out the Twisted Leaders section (and other resources) on this page.
Greg & Brandon are abosolutely correct with everything they have mentioned in reponse to your questions.
If you have further troubles, let me know and it would be my pleasure to helping you out.
I will also be selling my own professional made twisted leaders soon on the website - keep your eye out.
Brandon Khoo:
I'm going to superglue the knot I use with the braid to close it off!! I'm sure it should be fine but i just don't like the really stiff, hard feeling of it. I reckon it is going to be really loud going through the guides
--- Quote from: Luke Wyrsta on June 12, 2007, 11:35:30 AM ---
--- Quote from: Brandon on June 11, 2007, 03:39:43 PM ---I had nothing to do this weekend in Noosa (family get together) so I made up a few twisted leaders using the Penn 10X. I think I will put this into the the "it seemed like a good idea at the time" bucket. The material is so stiff that it just doesn't feel right. I will still finish these and test them out at Bugatti but they just don't feel nice to me.
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Yes, they are stiffer but they make a good cost effective alternative. I have already tried them and they work fine - there really isn't much of an issue if you are using them for standard popping, just make sure the finish is perfect becuase the stiffness can cuase issues with getting your nail knots to bite etc. - still a bit of an issue that is inherent with making them out of fluorocarbon which i don't hear anybody complaining about? obviously, fluorocarbon is unncessary but people still make them out of the material - stickbaits and monster fish, that is another story where you would want to use softer, more supple leader and better quality respectively.
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