Topwater Caranx Ignobilis: Giant Trevally (GT) > Tackle & Techniques
First popping rod
Courtland Babcock:
--- Quote from: Bent Inge Bentsen on May 22, 2015, 07:13:51 PM ---Thanks for all the replies! The Black Hole 7'6'' Nano looks like a suitable rod for me, and as you say it's half the price of some of the other rods. I've got a couple of Heru Cubera 150's and plan on buying some Orion Cono Cono poppers (160g), will this rod handle these as well? Or do I need the 8" Nano version to throw these poppers? How is the casting capability of the 7,6'' compared to the 8'' and 8,6'' ? I've used a Black Hole jigging rod for halibut, cod and coalfish for several years and are very pleased with it. The reason I added the more expensive rods was that they were recommended by others on this forum and that I want to buy a rod that is so good that I don't feel for buying a new rod after a couple of trips.
Gamefishing Asia recommends 80-100lb line for popping and 60-80lb line for jigging, therefore I was thinking to buy a 1500yd spool of Power Pro Super Slick 80lb and use it on both reels (Saragosa 10000SW for jigging). The diameter is 0,43mm which according to this https://www.facebook.com/MahigeerWS/posts/676602492364682 equals PE7. Do I need PE8 (100lb) for popping? And is PE8 suitable for jigging? The jigging rod will be a Black Hole Cape Cod 250g spinning.
I've read on this forum and on 360tuna.com that some people have had problems with aftermarked spools like SOM and Jigging Master, therefore I'm a bit sceptical. I guess if you suggest that I abolutely need more line capacity, that a 14000 SWB spool could be the solution. Will it fit the 10000 SWB reel without any problems/modifications?
Will the lower gear ratio of the 10000 SWB be a problem in popping? Or can I just reel a little bit faster?
Sorry for all the questions.
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Here is a video I shot in the Andamans last year. Black Hole 7'6" Graphite with a Saltiga 5000(#80 JB hollow). This was after 3 days of fishing heavier gear and settling in on what worked best for me at that time. I would have been fishing the nano 7'6" but it got broken by a lure being thrown though it while in a rod holder. You can get a good idea of the action of the rod.
Bent Inge Bentsen:
Awesome video and fishing! The rod looks great, I think I'll order a 7.6'' Nano rod. Another thing to consider is that if something happens to the rod and it gets broken I have only lost half the money compared to a high-end rod. Sorry to hear that you're rod got broken in Andaman. Thanks again for the answer!
Mark Harris:
--- Quote from: Bent Inge Bentsen on May 22, 2015, 07:13:51 PM ---Thanks for all the replies! The Black Hole 7'6'' Nano looks like a suitable rod for me, and as you say it's half the price of some of the other rods. I've got a couple of Heru Cubera 150's and plan on buying some Orion Cono Cono poppers (160g), will this rod handle these as well? Or do I need the 8" Nano version to throw these poppers? How is the casting capability of the 7,6'' compared to the 8'' and 8,6'' ? I've used a Black Hole jigging rod for halibut, cod and coalfish for several years and are very pleased with it. The reason I added the more expensive rods was that they were recommended by others on this forum and that I want to buy a rod that is so good that I don't feel for buying a new rod after a couple of trips.
Gamefishing Asia recommends 80-100lb line for popping and 60-80lb line for jigging, therefore I was thinking to buy a 1500yd spool of Power Pro Super Slick 80lb and use it on both reels (Saragosa 10000SW for jigging). The diameter is 0,43mm which according to this https://www.facebook.com/MahigeerWS/posts/676602492364682 equals PE7. Do I need PE8 (100lb) for popping? And is PE8 suitable for jigging? The jigging rod will be a Black Hole Cape Cod 250g spinning.
I've read on this forum and on 360tuna.com that some people have had problems with aftermarked spools like SOM and Jigging Master, therefore I'm a bit sceptical. I guess if you suggest that I abolutely need more line capacity, that a 14000 SWB spool could be the solution. Will it fit the 10000 SWB reel without any problems/modifications?
Will the lower gear ratio of the 10000 SWB be a problem in popping? Or can I just reel a little bit faster?
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I will not comment any further on the rod as you seem to have made your mind up no the budget option.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with the SOM 16000 (or Nature Boys) 16000 spools. Cannot speak for the JM 16000 as I have not used it. I have caught a number of very big GTs on the SOM 16000s without them missing a beat. The stock 14000 Stella spool capacity is fine with PE8 just about.
If you are looking to buy a bulk spool of Spectra braid you might be better off with Jerry Brown 100 lb or Tufline than PowerPro. I have not used PowerPro for years but it used to be extremely unreliable.
Bent Inge Bentsen:
Thanks for the comment! The reason I suggested Power Pro was because I have used it for years without problems, although not as extreme as GT-fishing. I've heard people had problems with Power Pro many years ago, but I thought this was mostly because of fake line on ebay. I'll definitely check out Jerry Brown and Tufline.
Amr Kehila:
--- Quote from: Bent Inge Bentsen on May 22, 2015, 11:36:27 PM ---Awesome video and fishing! The rod looks great, I think I'll order a 7.6'' Nano rod. Another thing to consider is that if something happens to the rod and it gets broken I have only lost half the money compared to a high-end rod. Sorry to hear that you're rod got broken in Andaman. Thanks again for the answer!
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I would take a little more time to consider the other 'budget' options available for a GT fishing rod whilst I cant confidently offer you a specific alternative; I just note that the Black Hole seems to be a Tuna rod and although perfectly usable; taper will be slower and more parabolic as a result, no?
--- Quote from: Mark Harris on May 23, 2015, 02:03:50 AM ---
If you are looking to buy a bulk spool of Spectra braid you might be better off with Jerry Brown 100 lb or Tufline than PowerPro. I have not used PowerPro for years but it used to be extremely unreliable.
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Yes and Daiwa Boat Braid is another cheap option used by some for budget reasons but I would use JB regardless.
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