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Ray Stevens:
Hello Brandon,
I was reading about the knot tests before and was doing some research, on joining super lines....following up an idea I had.

I discovered that 2 seperate Spider Wire Fusion lines labelled as 24 lb breaking strain, with Bimini doubles... where joined with a 10 fold Cats Paw (Bimini Cats Paw Splice)

In Test one the join remained intact and the line broke at the hook tied with a braid snell at 25 lbs or 11.3 kg

In Test 2,
The Hook was retied using a Braid snell, which again broke but this time at 12.1 kg

The Cats paw join survived both tests....

In The next test... fresh line was used same breaking strain as above in Spider Wire Fusion 24 lb, both lines again joined with a Bimini Cats Paw Splice, only this time the hook was tied using an extra bimini double, with a silly snell to engage the scales.

This time the line broke at 12.4 kg outside of the join 14% over the lines stated breaking strain.

Apparently normal braided lines joined with a Bimini Cats Paw splice break at about 84% of the Braid lines labelled breaking Strain.
However for some reason Spider Wire Fusion is an exception to this rule.

I had thoughts about a Spiderwire Fusion Mainline with a 70 turn bimini twist, joined with a 10 fold Bimini Cats Paw splice to a Sturgeon Mono wind on leader.

My train of thought had been on the Bungy effect of the Mono Sturgeon leader, lessening the strain on the Cat Paw join, between the Spiderwire Fusion and the Dacron at the loop of the Sturgeon leader...

Do you know if anybody has tried this....?

Cheers

Brandon Khoo:
I'm not familiar with a sturgeon wnd-on leader, Ray.
All I can say on wind-ons is that they don't seem to work very well when casting.
Also, all the testing I've done incorporating shock loads nearly always sees the braid breaking somewhere along the mainline and not at the knot. GTs do terrible things to mono leaders that stretch too much. I've seen mono leader stretched to the point where it has been severely damaged.

You won't find many of us using spiderwire these days. It's isn't as round as most of the latest braids and doesn't cast as well

Lip Song:
thanks brandon & jon,
think i stick back to wind on leader for now, was trying out the short leader setup & i think i share ur feeling: trigger finger on leader still felt better than on mainline.


--- Quote from: Brandon Khoo on October 11, 2008, 06:21:42 PM ---Not really recommended, Lip Song. Over a period of time, you're going to put so much stress on the SiC tip by accidentally winding it too far that it will eventually crack. if you want to fish for GTs, it is best to learn and use the direct braid to mono knots. Quite frankly, you'd be better off using a really basic bit fat braid to mono knot like an albright instead of the swivel.

If you use too short a leader, it won't be long enough to avoid that deadly tail on the GT.


--- Quote from: Lip Song on October 09, 2008, 02:21:11 PM ---hi,

Question: if i were to connect my mainline (130lb GT max) to 1 end of a swivel (leader on e other end) , what knot should i use?



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