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DarrenC

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BLACK JACK / NOMAD POPPERS
November 04, 2008, 08:04:30 PM
Just like some feedback from guys who've used Black Jack / Nomad Cuberas, Wahoos and Uluas and how they stack up against the more expensive Japanese creations. In terms of durability, ease of usage, balance and overall fish-catching ability - is there any reason to spend almost double for a branded japanese GT lure.

Thanks in advance!

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Re: BLACK JACK / NOMAD POPPERS
November 04, 2008, 08:53:26 PM
These are superb lures. I mainly use the Wahoos and GT Manias and each time they have been as good as and often better than the more expensive japanese lures I've used.

In terms of durability they are also excellent. Many casts slamming into rocks and being chewed by GTs, sharks and spaniards and they are still looking and fishing good.

My only issue would be that I'd like them in bigger sizes, 180-230g. Other than that top lures.

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Re: BLACK JACK / NOMAD POPPERS
November 04, 2008, 09:47:50 PM
Got to agree with David's comments wahoo's, ulua's etc. are all serious fish attractors, the holo sides are very unique and effective especially with the swim baits. They are easy to use and importantly excellent value for money, I think it has been stated previously in this forum that these are top of the pile in value stakes. Re comparing to expensive Jap lures, thats all personal economics at the end of the day.

I'm also keen to see if a heavier series will emerge in the future Pak Jon.  ;) ;) ;)

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Re: BLACK JACK / NOMAD POPPERS
November 04, 2008, 10:51:58 PM
Great value popper if you're on a budget, work effectively and IMO just as durable as craftbait.

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Re: BLACK JACK / NOMAD POPPERS
November 04, 2008, 11:52:09 PM
Agree with Dave (have to because I pinched one of his GT Mania on my first trip to Musandam and caught a couple of 30kg plus GT on it - he retaliated by pinching my successful 150g Wahoo on a subsequent trip - I did steal it back but lost it to a shark!). Still not sure about the need for a bigger version of the popper - only because I have no personal evidence of bigger poppers catching bigger fish. Having said that, if a bigger GT Mania is produced I will have to buy one or two!!

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Re: BLACK JACK / NOMAD POPPERS
November 05, 2008, 02:23:10 PM
it very much depends on the kind of lcoation you're fishing. If the area is relatively shallow, then I agree that the big cup-mouthed poppers are a lot of hard work for probably little additional gain.

On the other hand, if you'rer targeting big fish by popping deep water on the edge of a drop-off, the big poppers come into their own. even a big poppr like a Hammerhead I Cup or a a Fisherman Bigmouth Hp Tail 220 are relatively small compared to what a big GT would be eating but what they do achieve is bringing the fish to the surface.

The GT Mania is very, very much like a Fisherman S-POP 150 Short. There are quite a number of poppers based on this design from Fisherman such as the Jai Bigheads for example.
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Re: BLACK JACK / NOMAD POPPERS
November 05, 2008, 02:53:47 PM
Thanks guys, for the replies. Now i just have to get my hands on a few!

Thanks Brandon for the additional input, the S-pops are one of the most successful popper shapes and i absolutely love the original (i still think none of the copies come close in terms of balance and ease-of-use)

I think the Blackjack/Nomads fill a void in the med-priced stickbait range and are not as painful to lose to a 'cuda or mack than a Craftbait! And you guys' reckon they are just as effective. Sounds good!

Anyone tried the Skipjacks? Are they a GT lure or more for Tunas?

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Re: BLACK JACK / NOMAD POPPERS
November 05, 2008, 05:37:20 PM
Great poppers are very much a personal opinion and those opinions will always be shaped by how successful they have been for an angler and also the angler's popping style. Some people like to pop with an upwards motion with the rod in the gimbal whilst others prefer the side sweeping motion. Some poppers work better with one action over another. For example, big Hammerheads actually don't make that big a splash with a sideways popping motion but they create a massive bubble trail which really attracts the fish. On the other hand, if you pop with an upwards motion, you will create more of a splash.

I agree with you on the S-Pop - I still believe the original is the best but I do know a few people who swear by the GT Mania. I personally much prefer the Cubera which I have a great deal of confidence in. It's a matter of personal choice.


Thanks guys, for the replies. Now i just have to get my hands on a few!

Thanks Brandon for the additional input, the S-pops are one of the most successful popper shapes and i absolutely love the original (i still think none of the copies come close in terms of balance and ease-of-use)

I think the Blackjack/Nomads fill a void in the med-priced stickbait range and are not as painful to lose to a 'cuda or mack than a Craftbait! And you guys' reckon they are just as effective. Sounds good!

Anyone tried the Skipjacks? Are they a GT lure or more for Tunas?
If it swims; I want to catch it!

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Re: BLACK JACK / NOMAD POPPERS
November 05, 2008, 09:12:28 PM
Great poppers are very much a personal opinion and those opinions will always be shaped by how successful they have been for an angler and also the angler's popping style. Some people like to pop with an upwards motion with the rod in the gimbal whilst others prefer the side sweeping motion. Some poppers work better with one action over another. For example, big Hammerheads actually don't make that big a splash with a sideways popping motion but they create a massive bubble trail which really attracts the fish. On the other hand, if you pop with an upwards motion, you will create more of a splash.

I agree with you on the S-Pop - I still believe the original is the best but I do know a few people who swear by the GT Mania. I personally much prefer the Cubera which I have a great deal of confidence in. It's a matter of personal choice.


I think Brandon is spot on - especially the first sentence. Having worked 130g GT Mania and 125g Cubera in conditions varying from flat calm to decent sized waves, I have had success with both poppers, using two basic techniques, over both shallow and deeper water. I doubt that my technique is up there with more experienced poppers but for what it is worth, I found the following -

In flat calm conditions, I found it relatively easy to work both poppers with either a fairly short and violent upward motion or a longer sideways sweeping motion. As Brandon says, the former created a pronounced voluble pop and the latter less pop but more bubble trail.

In a decent wave, I found it necessary to time the retrieve. An upward motion especially tended to skip the popper off the top of the wave. So I aimed to pull hard when the popper was on the backside of the wave i.e. when the popper was out of sight. A sideways sweep was more forgiving in these conditions but still worked better off the back of a wave.

Have not tried the Skipjack yet but am taking a few to the Seychelles early December so will see how they do.

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Re: BLACK JACK / NOMAD POPPERS
November 05, 2008, 09:53:11 PM
Have used the Skipjacks in shallow water around the Montebellos with great effect. Being relatively narrow across the face they are not as tiring as the wider faced lures. Have found their durability to be excellent and seem to cop a lot of abuse.


Les

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Re: BLACK JACK / NOMAD POPPERS
November 05, 2008, 10:19:13 PM
The Skipjacks also cast well into the wind.
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Re: BLACK JACK / NOMAD POPPERS
November 06, 2008, 06:26:35 AM
the skipjack is a good example of what I mean about personal choices - I have never liked this lure!  :D It sits somewhere between a chugger and a pencil and to me, doesn't do either as well as a specialised chugger or pencil
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Re: BLACK JACK / NOMAD POPPERS
November 06, 2008, 03:59:36 PM
I have found the Cubera's to work very well and caught a good variety of fish on them.
I have only ever raised fish on the stickbaits but have raised some big fish on them.

Good value for money I reckon.

Pete

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Re: BLACK JACK / NOMAD POPPERS
November 10, 2008, 07:07:52 PM
Thanks guys, for all the friendly feedback!

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Re: BLACK JACK / NOMAD POPPERS
November 11, 2008, 08:33:55 PM
The poppers do come in bigger size where I'm located.