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Lucas Nixon

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AG chain knot.
July 08, 2015, 06:08:38 PM
On a recent trip I was exposed to the AG chain knot for the first time.

What are people's thoughts and more importantly experiences using this knot to connect 130lb - 200lb leader material to swivels and or solid rings etc.

Cheers,

Lucas.

Rory McPherson

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Re: AG chain knot.
July 09, 2015, 02:05:15 PM
I use it with flurocarbon leader for jigging only , important to get the half hitches going opposite ways I think.

Trevor Skinner

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Re: AG chain knot.
July 09, 2015, 03:03:55 PM
I've heard mixed reports but my major question is why?

Just about everyone I know uses either a uni or an improved clinch and they're both pretty foolproof.

Regards,


Trevor   

Brandon Khoo

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Re: AG chain knot.
July 09, 2015, 03:45:12 PM
I think it is a ridiculous knot
If it swims; I want to catch it!

Lucas Nixon

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Re: AG chain knot.
July 09, 2015, 05:48:49 PM
Thanks for the thoughts and comments.

A mate of mine swears by the knot and uses it for jigging and surface fishing.

It looks like a whole lot of extra work for what souds like little to no extra benifit.

I personally use the improved clinch and am yet to have a knot fail on anything from bream and bass fishing all the way through to Tuna and GT fishing.

I was just wondering if I missed something and the AG chain knot was the "new best thing".

As always appreciate the comments of those in the know.

Cheers guys,

Lucas.

Courtland Babcock

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Re: AG chain knot.
July 10, 2015, 07:42:52 AM
I am a fanatic about testing stuff. I tried the knot maybe 5 years ago when I first saw it. It was fairly strong comparatively but what I didn't like was after a full load cycle the knot would bend and stay bent. Sort of goofy.

As stated by others, there are just as good or better choices out there.

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Re: AG chain knot.
July 10, 2015, 08:25:35 AM
No Lucas, no weren't missing the next best thing......

A while ago...all the hype was that the Jigging Master AG Taiwan team.....was doing all there jigging promo's in NZ...and all round.....and that's the knot that was encouraged to jig with, and so on. I think some of the top water Japanese hopped on....and started tying this knot to there rigs......no advantage...maybe the knot has a small like a " spring in it, like a bunge cord... ???.

Uni...Improved Cinch.....is great  :).

Regards

Leo   

Alex Gomez

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Re: AG chain knot.
July 10, 2015, 01:51:02 PM
Anyone know which is stronger, the Improved Clinch or the Uni? anyone done a test?

Rory McPherson

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Re: AG chain knot.
July 10, 2015, 03:10:22 PM
No Lucas, no weren't missing the next best thing......

A while ago...all the hype was that the Jigging Master AG Taiwan team.....was doing all there jigging promo's in NZ...and all round.....and that's the knot that was encouraged to jig with, and so on. I think some of the top water Japanese hopped on....and started tying this knot to there rigs......no advantage...maybe the knot has a small like a " spring in it, like a bunge cord... ???.

Uni...Improved Cinch.....is great  :).

Regards

Leo
 
 It was here in NZ that I first saw the knot after Pony and the JM team passed through and I think a lot of us still use the AG chain knot for jigging , top water- I don't think the knots ever been popular over here . To me for jigging kingfish its still the knot for flurocarbon . That small bungy/spring effect helps for sure .

Brian Maccarone

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Re: AG chain knot.
July 10, 2015, 08:20:25 PM
So the knot has "spring in it" even at the end of say two to three metres shock leader? ??? Anymore spring/stretch is going to effect hook set.

Lucas Nixon

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Re: AG chain knot.
July 10, 2015, 09:39:25 PM
Hey guys,

Interesting comments for sure.

Not sure about the spring in the knot as I haven't used it but I'm assuming this assists with jigging?

Thanks for the info.


Courtland Babcock

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Re: AG chain knot.
July 10, 2015, 11:17:28 PM
Anyone know which is stronger, the Improved Clinch or the Uni? anyone done a test?

The absolute best "knot" I have ever tested is a ringed grommet with an aluminum crimp. I know, not a knot...

Other knots are nowhere even close in strength. The critical factors are:
- using the smallest sleeve possible for your leader regardless of its "rating"
- burn the tag end and snug against crimp prior to crimping
- use a calibrated pair of crimpers
- A BAD CRIMP IS WORSE THAN A BAD KNOT do not overcrimp

I rarely go more than #80 leader unless using heavy topwater in shallow water. I will bend a hook that is even well seated to the bottom of the gape at around #75-80 and not break the #80 Yo-Zuri FC. 

Amr Kehila

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Re: AG chain knot.
July 12, 2015, 06:16:40 PM
4-Turn Uni knot for all terminal connections!

Mark Richie

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Re: AG chain knot.
July 13, 2015, 06:34:13 AM
I'm with Amr. Uni knot all the way!

For me personally, intricate terminal knots are completely unnecessary! I'm fishing with 170lb (for pe8) and 200lb (for pe10) leaders purely for the extra abrasion resistance so knot strength isn't all that important when the lb rating of my leader far exceeds my needs.


Rich

Lucas Nixon

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Re: AG chain knot.
July 13, 2015, 05:34:41 PM
Awesome feed back guys boosts my confidence in knot selection.

Clinch and uni all the way.

Cheers.