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Topwater Caranx Ignobilis: Giant Trevally (GT) => Tackle & Techniques => Topic started by: Peter Olesen on December 21, 2012, 05:01:55 AM
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From Allan Hawks Youtube channel:
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I see:
1) New Stella SW in 2013 - now almost for sure :)
2) A part of what seems to be a very nice looking spool
3) An "X" - which most probably means that they're going to use x-ship on the new Stella.
Hmmm - not much but interesting enough!
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The spool is sexy (http://www.dyframix.com/images/graphics/smiley_heart.gif). If the reel matched the spool in black it will be as handsome as the Dogfight. Whats the max drag?
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Good catch!
how long do we have to wait!!!!
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Good catch!
how long do we have to wait!!!!
Yeah, any information about release date?
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I heard a rumor saying that the model 8000 or smaller will be released by the first half of 2013 and the rest of the bigger model will be released by end of 2013.
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Most interesting for me will be if they go for carbon rotor or not....
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All but confirmed Mark regarding the rotor.
http://jignpopforum.com/topic/649-next-generation-stella-sw/
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Thanks Mark.
That will require some mental adjustment! All that flex in the rotor plays on my mind. I have a couple of small Shimano reels with Ci4 rotors and even with those it feels "funny".
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That will require some mental adjustment! All that flex in the rotor plays on my mind. I have a couple of small Shimano reels with Ci4 rotors and even with those it feels "funny".
Allan Hawk said it was not confirmed, so I am still holding to the hope. I want it to remain metal!
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A pic!
http://www.jignpopforum.com/topic/706-a-first-look-at-the-stella-2013/
XSHIP rotor. Any one know what XSHIP really mean?
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Shimano's X-Ship system utilizes a double bearing supported pinion gear to give anglers increased gearing efficiency and power for virtually effortless cranking of the handle. By supporting the pinion gear with two A-RB ball bearings, X-Ship eliminates the pinion gear twist and rotor flex that can be a common problem with spinning reels when fighting a fish.
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Shimano also uses an X to denote JDM models using their fastest gearing. 5.8 vs 6.2 as on the current 10k sw
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i'm not sure why there seems to be much negative response to composite materials being used. makes sense to me. the extensive use of them in such high performance and stress areas such as F1 and the aircraft industry surely proves their worth...
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God listened to my prayers, the rotor is metal :D
http://www.360tuna.com/forum/f60/2013-stella-pictures-32035/index2.html#post337824
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Aluminium rotor is good news indeed! And a 14000 size....... fantastic news for GT Popping anglers.
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Aluminium rotor is good news indeed! And a 14000 size....... fantastic news for GT Popping anglers.
Thought you'd like that mate, then we wait for SOM to build an 18k spool for it. Question in my mind is will they actually build a new reel body in between the 10k and 18k or will they work off the 10k and just add the 14k spool up-size...
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Apart from the natural inclination to want the latest and (hopefully) greatest, I really don't see what they are going to do with the reel that is going to result in any discernible improvements. The 08 Stella bought in a significant change more because it bought the smaller 10000 into play which resulted in a significant weight saving if you felt you could get away with the smaller reel.. In a direct comparison between the 10000 FA Stella and the 08 18000 SW Stella, I can't really say there has been a particularly discernible performance difference. I do like the line lay system on the 08 Stella but that has been about it. I am still pretty convinced that line came off my 12000 and 16000 Yumeya spools that I had on my FA reels every bit as fast as they it does off my 18000s.
All I know is that when I am fighting a fish, the last thing I am thinking off is what reel I have on. The fact that I don't even think of the reel though is testament to my trust that it will do the job. I don't feel any different about the FA and the 08 in this regard.
On the X-Ship issue, I know some people claim they feel a significant difference but I had every model in the FD Stella and they have all been replaced by FEs. I simply don't think there is much of a noticeable difference.
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Aluminium rotor is good news indeed! And a 14000 size....... fantastic news for GT Popping anglers.
Thought you'd like that mate, then we wait for SOM to build an 18k spool for it. Question in my mind is will they actually build a new reel body in between the 10k and 18k or will they work off the 10k and just add the 14k spool up-size...
:)
Might not need an aftermarket spool. A 14000 will hold about 220-230 m of PE8 I reckon.
I wonder if it would be too much to expect a solid, one piece handle as well?
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Can someone please bring me up to speed with what is happening with the "Stella" family.
For example what's happening with what models??How many new models are there.Mark mentioned a 14000size reel.I've heard of a 25000 brute.
I was about to buy a new18000 and smarten it up with SOM or similar.Maybe I should wait.
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Can someone please bring me up to speed with what is happening with the "Stella" family.
For example what's happening with what models??How many new models are there.Mark mentioned a 14000size reel.I've heard of a 25000 brute.
I was about to buy a new18000 and smarten it up with SOM or similar.Maybe I should wait.
I don't think anyone can say for sure. Only rumours and speculation at this point.
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I would just say that when I mentioned a 14000, I was only quoting what came from Alan Hawk in the 360Tuna thread.
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New pics in Japanese catalog. Maybe some of our Japanese members could provide us with better photos. Apart from the color, it looks pretty much like the '08/'09 models. Internally there will be some improvements according to mr. Hawk:
http://jignpopforum.com/topic/715-here-is-the-new-stella-sw/page__pid__4682#entry4682
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Nice - confirms the 30K size then!
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It's the 14000 I'm interested in
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Folding handle and an egg knob :( .
Great aesthetics though.
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So we are all getting hyped about the new 2013 Stella. Anybody know when these are supposed to start hitting the market?
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Here we go, compliments of Mr Hawk:
(from: http://jignpopforum.com/topic/715-updated-here-is-the-new-stella-sw/page__pid__4682#entry4682)
(http://alanhawk.com/5467567.jpg)
(http://www.alanhawk.com/3435.jpg)
The VERY good news seems to be that the spools are interchangeable with existing Stella SW models. All those existing aftermarket spools will fit!
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Here we go, compliments of Mr Hawk:
(from: http://jignpopforum.com/topic/715-updated-here-is-the-new-stella-sw/page__pid__4682#entry4682)
(http://alanhawk.com/5467567.jpg)
Breathtaking! Is this to catch fish or to raise sunken ships? Do you know the weight or capacity of the 30K?
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In the fine print under the picture the pricing is from Y85,000-Y135,000 or $1000 to just under $1600
Regards,
Trevor
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Don't forget those are Japanese domestic prices. They will surely be higher priced if purchased outside Japan, especially with the inevitable hype and supply shortage.
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Here we go, compliments of Mr Hawk:
(from: http://jignpopforum.com/topic/715-updated-here-is-the-new-stella-sw/page__pid__4682#entry4682)
The VERY good news seems to be that the spools are interchangeable with existing Stella SW models. All those existing aftermarket spools will fit!
Suggests to me the reel body sizes are not going to change relative to the current 8/10k, 18/20k SW bodies. Could shimano just be taking more notice of their after market accessorizers (such as the yumeya 12k, 20k max spool and the SOM 16k spools) and upgrading spool capacities to these new reels which are essentially the same body sizes as the current SW's but with some new mods like an 'x-shield'. If this proves to be the case I won't be bothering with any reel retail therapy when they come out.
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If that's the case, neither will I.
What would be ideal for me is a reel whose body is bigger than the 8000 but smaller than the 18000, had beefed up internals as compared to the 8000 and would hold 250-300 metres of PE8. I was hoping that's what the 14000 would be. Will just have to wait and see I guess.
Regards,
Trevor
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I think Andy may well be right but let's see. It could be that the new Stella is really just an existing Stella with a few aesthetic/finishing changes and new gearing.
Trevor, a 14000 would never hold that much PE8. A 16000 just about holds 250 metres PE8 and even that is pushing it.
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There is more detail about the 14K. How come it pulls more line than a 18K that has bigger spool?
http://jignpopforum.com/topic/715-more-updates-here-is-the-new-stella-sw/page__view__findpost__p__4680
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I guess because it is XG Adrian... gearing 6.2 for the 14000 against 5.7 for the 18000.
If that table is correct, there will no longer be a high gear 10000.
As the 14000 is only 5 grams heavier than the 10000, I think we can assume that the14000 does not have larger body size.
All assuming of course that this table is correct.
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I guess because it is XG Adrian... gearing 6.2 for the 14000 against 5.7 for the 18000.
Your right. sorry, missed it.
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Without checking my boxes for the 5000 and 10000 I thought they were 390 and 640 grams? That makes the new models heavier which is not what is being said.
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Checking the Australian and US Shimano sites and the 5000 is 400 and 405 grams, the 10000 is 630 and 666 grams respectively (after converting the US ounces to grams). Interesting that they are different considering they are the same reels but in any case both stats show the current model is lighter than what is posted in that table.
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I believe those weights are w.o. the spool but I stand corrected .
Jon .
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Will be great to open one up once they are available and see what differences there actually are...
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Very interesting to see Shimano is bringing out a new model of the Stella. The X-Shield is the best thing i can see about the new model and Daiwa can take a leaf out of the Shimano book because some of the new Saltiga's have started to pitt (pitt equals corrosion spots) on the reels body. I hear the X-Shield is a form of corrosion resistance. And as for the spools i see it as a way to stop all the corrosion of the bearings that comes with using the after market spools such as the yumeya 12k, 20k max spool and the SOM 16k spools. As it is of my opinion that the after market spools have so many holes drilled into them for weight loss that it makes your reels body susceptible to saltwater enhancing bearing corrosion. And the price well it looks like Shimano will do the same as Daiwa did and that's jack the price up for a new product.
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(http://sphotos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/p843x403/546860_585818274766588_1400004219_n.png)
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:o"wolf whistle"
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Note: there are certain things I can and cannot say. But what I will say is that some of those specs already published by some people are not correct.
A lot of people are jumping to some interesting conclusions - wait until the specs are officially published!
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Sure looks like Saltigas Dogfights (6500 & 7000H), a big improvement it looks brilliant, it will be interesting to compare prices between new Saltigas and these new Stellas.
Cheers Ross.
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I figured that could be the case Luke which is why I tempered my comments with the caveat "assuming that table is correct".
On the other hand, the scans posted by Alan Hawk seem to be from a brochure! Maybe things got lost in translation?
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Hey Luke,
Do you know when it's release will be?
Cheers
Chris
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Sent this link to Alan Hawk, he said he can't see it without membership, so sent him the text. Answer
----Hello there,
Thanks for your email. I'm not sure if the gentleman was referring to me, but if so then unfortunately he's incorrect. The 14000 model is real, and you don't need to wait for "official specification" since my table happens to be Shimano's official release posted in Salt World magazine Volume 98 that hits the markets on the 15th. Here is a mobile phone shot of the table in that magazine.
Hope this answers your questions.
Alan-----
Adrian,
I'm not sure what you are trying to achieve here? Where did I state the 14000 wasn't real?
Also, please avoid pasting all these external links and posting correspondence. He is welcome to join and have contribution.
Luke
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I figured that could be the case Luke which is why I tempered my comments with the caveat "assuming that table is correct".
On the other hand, the scans posted by Alan Hawk seem to be from a brochure! Maybe things got lost in translation?
Agreed and understand Mark.
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Hey Luke,
Do you know when it's release will be?
Cheers
Chris
I'm not sure of the domestic schedule, usually it is unveiled in August.
In Japan, likely to be February/March in line with the Major Exhibitions.
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Sorry luke, didn't know I shouldn't post links! All understood.
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I certainly hope it is February rather than March - and more importantly that Sansui have stock during the second week of February :)
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I certainly hope it is February rather than March - and more importantly that Sansui have stock during the second week of February :)
Hey Dan! Wishful thinking! Usually it's the new flag ship models are unveiled at these exhibitions and tackle shows. But you never know - you could get lucky!
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So Luke are you allowed to comment on the table of weights as that appears to have been released? It shows the new models to be heavier than the current ones.
Thanks.
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I just watched the video in the previous posts...appears that it also has another gear for slow oscillation, maybe similar to the Kisu and Aero range :)
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Argh!!!Need to topup the piggy bank!!! :'(
Hopefully to reach Malaysia before Hallaniyat trip 2014!!! ;)
somebody, please planned 1 14kXG and 1 18kHG for my 2013 christmas gift!!! ;D
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Hey Guys,
From the videos/pics looks like the bail arm/assy is still the same..
(http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa478/fishmad1/Bailarm2013.jpg)
Looks like there is more alloy in the bottom of the spool (where the plastic cover used to be) this carries all the way to the rotor arms (should be more rigid than the current model)
(http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa478/fishmad1/Rotor2013.jpg)
Includes another gear for slow oscillation (can also see this the provision made in the cover - photo above) may also increase bearing count if supported by bearings
(http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa478/fishmad1/Oscillationgear2013.jpg)
Main shaft and pinion appear the same - side plate of different design - one piece handle should be better - beefier main gear than the current one.
(http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa478/fishmad1/Reel2013.jpg)
More resistant coating etc and redisgned spool lip should be good also...
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Clem,
Ooh, Ahh.
Great photos by the way. The best detail yet.
You'll be getting mine straight from the box.
Regards,
Trevor
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I note that on Rayanne's website they are running out the current model and stating that the new model will be available in in Aus in April. Could be that we don't have that long to wait?!
"Shimano Stella SW
New Model Due This April
- Will be around 20% More Expensive...
Last Chance To Grab a High Performance Bargain ....."
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Love it Clem. Mr 8) indeed with your sleuth detective work ;D
Interesting with Ray & Anne's stating ~20% more. I guess they haven't pulled it out of thin air?
Here's another one no-one has picked up or I have missed ... the handle. In some pics/vids it is yellow and in others it is silver.
In one of the pics from the magazine Alan pulled out, there are two stellas side by side with one having gold and the other having silver. Will it depend on the size of the reel or will Japan get silver and others get gold or the other way around?
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Thanks for your work Clem, very interesting.
I may be changing my attitude on buying the 14k if the weight increases mean a stronger more GT capable reel than the current 10k body allows. Very exciting as the current 10k is no slouch for such a little reel.
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Is it confirmed that the spool is compatible with 08 SW stella? From the picture it seems the new spool is shorter than the 08 but somehow I heard that the spools are exchangeable.
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Cant really tell Ben, it will be great work if the design has shortened the overall length of the shaft...as it will be less likely to bend under pressure.
This is the main problem with some of the Twin power reels, they dont have a bearing in the rotor nut which means less support - especially when the spool is at max height...hence they often bend.
From what you can see...I think it looks great, excellent reel anyway but this will close out most of the niggles
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Clem - thank you so much for taking the time to run your expert tutored eye over the limited material that has been released to date. Some interesting insights there.
Ben - I am pretty sure it was Alan Hawk who mentioned that the spools were compatible.
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This is the main problem with some of the Twin power reels, they dont have a bearing in the rotor nut which means less support - especially when the spool is at max height...hence they often bend.
The Twin Power is not the only spinning reel you see this happen to. I think the biggest cause of a bent main shaft is when a fisherman grabs hold of the spool under a heavy drag setting and heavy line when the spool is at it's max height on the main shaft trying to stop a fish from reefing him. Which in-turn you get rotor flex and a spool rubbing on the rotor. Some may say you need to do this from getting reefed and some may say its neglect or bad technique.
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You are right Rob, it is a leading contributor to a bent shaft..
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Here's a video featuring the 30000 and others in action:
http://tv.shimano.co.jp/movie/promotion/promotion2013_stellasw_2/
Cheers
Ian
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Here's a video featuring the 30000 and others in action:
http://tv.shimano.co.jp/movie/promotion/promotion2013_stellasw_2/
Cheers
Ian
PIMPIN!!
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I laughed at the bit where they use the Stella to winch the truck...multitasking!
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Looks like there is more alloy in the bottom of the spool (where the plastic cover used to be) this carries all the way to the rotor arms (should be more rigid than the current model)
That sounds good if true, an 18000SW with 20000SW MAX spool under high drag used to make the rotor arms scrape the spool and the shaft damaged.
I have since read there is a Carbon insert at the bottom, however it is said that the rotor is more rigid than the current model...
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Good spot Clem!
I am going to take at guess and plump for no spool backwards compatability - didn't work with the FA and I guess the slow oscillator gear is for line lay ... Could be related to the shorter spool stack if it is shorter?
Either way I will be clamouring to order from Japan as soon as stock is available - absolutely no way it will be launched in the UK this year going by Shimano UK's track record - even if it does see a UK launch at all!
Roll on the Osaka show!
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News for all tackle fanatics:
http://fishing.shimano.co.jp/product/reel/3168
Cheers
Rob
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Excellent Robert and thank you for digging that out.
So it looks like the folding handle has gone which is a good news.
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Nice one Robert.
These stellas look very fine, saving up for the 14k ::)now and hoping the SOM spools will fit on it.
News for all tackle fanatics:
http://fishing.shimano.co.jp/product/reel/3168
Cheers
Rob
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As the 14000 is only marginally heavier than the 8000 and 10000, is it safe to assume that the body is the same?
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Sell your som spools Andy. Help with the purchase of the new Stella and really a som spool on a 14k Stella is pointless!
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If indeed the new 14,000 reel turns out to be more capable for GT than the existing 10,000 then it's a winner for me, but we'll have to wait for April or later following testing. The backwards compatability of spools still seems to be in debate??, Christoffer, if in fact compatible then the extra 50m of PE8 afforded by the 16,000 SOM is a no brainer for me in GT applications.
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I was surprised to read the 14000 PE8 capacity being as low as 200 metres. You can get 200 metres of PE8 on the existing 12000.
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Good point Mark,
As stated you get 300m of PE6 on the 14k, using the 'line capacity' calculator program the result for PE8 is 220m!!
:P
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Gents,
I must admit that I'm not going to fall over myself to run out and buy the new model. The old one does sterling service for me and since my 'go to'line is PE8, and I don't particularly like aftermarket spools, the old model 18000 is fantastic. In fact, I may look for another one if there's a run out sale.
If the 14000 was a PE8 machine and held at least 250m maybe, but until I want to fish PE6 I think I'll leave it on the shelf.
Regards,
Trevor
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The new Stella 30000 is enormous ... it will have a capacity of 600 metres of PE8!!
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Ian,
Think the 30000 is aimed at persuing tuna and billfish where it's not so much the breaking strain of the line but the capacity of the reel that's the issue. Imagine how much PE6 you could get on one of those puppies.
I notice that in the marketing blurb they specifically mention GTs and the 18000.
Regards,
Trevor
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Agreed, I'm sure this is intended as a giant bluefin/big marlin reel. Here's the new Stella website with all the specs:
http://fishing.shimano.co.jp/product/series/stella_sw_2013/index.html
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i am a saltiga user and fan, but any release dates on the
stella 30,000 as yet?
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For those that are interested in all the specs etc, Plat now has them up for pre-order.
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The new Stella looks amazing and will definitely over time add them to the collection. I think the reels to look at are the new 8K which is going to have a drag of something like 26kgs, 14K for PE6 and 30K for Bluefin, Doggies and GTs in Socotra at least for us! Not sure a rod will fit the 8K and be able to handle the high drag but will be good to try, the 14K is a perfect match for PE6 and using a medium popping outfit and then the big dog for real deep burn pain and capacity on big fish in deep water! All very exciting and I think Shimano have done a lot of research World wide to offer reels for all high end saltwater applications!
It is amazing that the "old" Stella has been improved as the old one had nothing wrong so scary how good the new one is going to have to be to trump its predecessor! But to be honest I'll definitely hold onto my old reels and possibly for the price difference get a couple more of the standard models.
Cheers,
Nick
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Thanks for posting the New Stella website link Ian. The video of the new Stella in action is a ripper.
I notice the Ocea rods they use in the video are a lot different to the Ocea rods we get here in Australia. The reel seat for starter's.
Cheers Rob.
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From a purely dispassionate POV, you have to wonder how much better the 2013 Stella can be when compared to the existing SW 2008 range and whether that will justify a high dollar spend.
Of course, anglers are rarely that logical (I am hopeless!) and there will be lots purchased regardless ;) .
The 14000 XG is the one that interests me most - could be the perfect PE8 popping reel.
On the 30000, I can't find the weight published anywhere. Anyone know?
On the 8000, is the max drag figure a mis-print? The 8000 puts down more drag than the 30000?
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From a purely dispassionate POV, you have to wonder how much better the 2013 Stella can be when compared to the existing SW 2008 range and whether that will justify a high dollar spend.
Mark, have you been talking to my wife, she has the same opinion as you, just worded differently ???
The 30k will have the bigger rotor along with that bigger spool, so one could only guess.
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Andy, I am still abiding by your instruction to discuss nothing fishing-related with your dear wife ;)
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Hi Mark, Totally agree that it is going to be hard to beat the old SW and I think there will be the same thing as last time the SW launched and that there was an initial rush to get the SW and then an even bigger rush to try and buy the last remaining FAs as everyone realized it was a great price and still an awesome reel, we still using some FAs in the Musandam after most probably 2000 GTs!
Not sure if the new 8000 is a misprint but it is way to much drag if true for anyone or rod to handle for any length of time, but should be fun to at least try! I heard the 30000 was going to be over 30kgs drag???? Ouch going to hurt! I still think the 14000 is the perfect PE6 reel for GTs and Tuna on a medium set up, I think if you fishing PE8 upwards then the 18000 is the right reel for the line capacity, but end of the day if you can fit 200m of line then that should be enough for any GT in normal conditions, he gets 200m from you that bad boy is way back in the reef, good bye lure and a lot of line, respool. It will be great if the smaller reels can put out the higher drag and maybe a couple of options on max spools to increase line capacity so usie much smaller reels to land much bigger fish. Aaaahhhhh the options!
Cheers,
Nick
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From a purely dispassionate POV, you have to wonder how much better the 2013 Stella can be when compared to the existing SW 2008 range and whether that will justify a high dollar spend.
Of course, anglers are rarely that logical (I am hopeless!) and there will be lots purchased regardless ;) .
The 14000 XG is the one that interests me most - could be the perfect PE8 popping reel.
On the 30000, I can't find the weight published anywhere. Anyone know?
On the 8000, is the max drag figure a mis-print? The 8000 puts down more drag than the 30000?
Hi Mark,
If the drag on the 8k is correct I would say its beacause the drag stack is of the same design (size) as the others...the 8k spool having a smaller circumference will enable a higher drag rating
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The 08 Stella 8000sw had 25kg drag also. They've improved the drag washers so they claim the higher drag. Highly doubt the reel will actually pull 28kg drag even at max and the practical drag will be much less.
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Hi Mark, Totally agree that it is going to be hard to beat the old SW and I think there will be the same thing as last time the SW launched and that there was an initial rush to get the SW and then an even bigger rush to try and buy the last remaining FAs as everyone realized it was a great price and still an awesome reel, we still using some FAs in the Musandam after most probably 2000 GTs!
Not sure if the new 8000 is a misprint but it is way to much drag if true for anyone or rod to handle for any length of time, but should be fun to at least try! I heard the 30000 was going to be over 30kgs drag???? Ouch going to hurt! I still think the 14000 is the perfect PE6 reel for GTs and Tuna on a medium set up, I think if you fishing PE8 upwards then the 18000 is the right reel for the line capacity, but end of the day if you can fit 200m of line then that should be enough for any GT in normal conditions, he gets 200m from you that bad boy is way back in the reef, good bye lure and a lot of line, respool. It will be great if the smaller reels can put out the higher drag and maybe a couple of options on max spools to increase line capacity so usie much smaller reels to land much bigger fish. Aaaahhhhh the options!
Cheers,
Nick
Hey Nick
I agree with you there and have always considered that 200 metres of PE8 is the minimum for GT fishing, and in that sense 12000 size spools big enough. You can definitely get 200 metres of PE8 onto a Twinpower or Yumeya 12000. I mentioned earlier in this thread that a stated capacity of 200 m PE8 for a 14000 seems low to me. Unless Shimano have changed the sizing, it ought be more like 220-230.
On the drags, how right you are. No normal human being could hold on for long (if at all) at some of these high numbers. And of course, what rod is going to hold out under that sort of force?
Like many others I am sure I will be making all sort of logical reasoning for NOT buying a new Stella, and then doing the exact opposite :).
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It isn't just the rod, Mark. The problem with the claims made on the drags is that while the reels can almost certainly pull that much drag, the longeivity of the components inside under heavy use is another question. I have recently had to change the drive gear on both my 10000s and my reels have probably seen a ceiling of around 15kgs of drag. Mind you, both reels have been fished hard since acquired but I am not at all capable of fishing anywhere near the maximum drags claimed on the reels.
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I think the higher drag ratings are more a matter of making the reel better to handle the normal drag settings of around 12-15 kilograms that we tend to use. I mean how often do you drive with maximum speed in your car? I have never tried that...
Problem is that it could be the drive gears that is the bottle neck as Brandon mentions. But you may have a couple of more annual trips than I do :)
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I think that is well put, Peter
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Great analogy with the car Peter! But it is good to now you have the extra power and to put the pedal to the metal every now and then!! Mark classic, I think we both now we are going to buy at least one new Stella when we can get our hands on it, just a curse of loving rods, reels, lures and all things shiny! We can only fish part of our time but having the new Stella is permanent!! Brandon totally agree not sure if the components can last to long under the high pressure but hopefully at 15kgs the new reels will handle and last longer, but all exciting to find out in the next couple of months!
Cheers,
Nick
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Nick,
You've hit on something there: 'A Stella's for life just not for Christmas'.
I'll let you sell it to Shimano.
Trev
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I guess we just have to accept that even the best that reels break given the pressure we put them under when GT fishing. I too have blitzed the gears on a couple of Stellas and a Saltiga Dogfight. The latter is still running without replacing the gears but it makes a noise like a coffee grinder :o
Will be interesting to see if the new Stella is a step forward in the hardiness ranks.
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I think that would be the last thing Shimano would want!
Nick,
You've hit on something there: 'A Stella's for life just not for Christmas'.
I'll let you sell it to Shimano.
Trev
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On the 30000, I can't find the weight published anywhere. Anyone know?
Mark on that link that Ian has posted you will see the stella 30000 has ?? as it's weight. I put that through Google Translate and came up with nothing. Maybe one of the Japanese member's might translate it.
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Haha, very good Brandon, i think it was the Japanese who invented 'planned obselescence'.
Rob i'll take a guess and say 'to be announced'.
I think that would be the last thing Shimano would want!
Nick,
You've hit on something there: 'A Stella's for life just not for Christmas'.
I'll let you sell it to Shimano.
Trev
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I think Andy is spot on :)
Babylon translates that as follows:
n. (Hira=???) undecidedness, indeterminacy
adj. (Hira=????) undecided, pending, not having yet decided