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Topwater Caranx Ignobilis: Giant Trevally (GT) => Tackle & Techniques => Topic started by: Matt Hill on July 27, 2007, 09:50:12 PM

Title: mono or fluro???
Post by: Matt Hill on July 27, 2007, 09:50:12 PM
just wondering what u guys prefer for leader when popping and or jigging flurocarbon or mono?  and why?

cheers matt
Title: Re: mono or fluro???
Post by: Matt Hill on August 03, 2007, 09:18:19 PM
ok no worries? >:(
Title: Re: mono or fluro???
Post by: Brandon Khoo on August 03, 2007, 09:41:36 PM
Hi Matt - I've been away for the last week fishing!
I've personally never been a big fan of fluorocarbon but I am much more of a popper fisherman than a jigger. It's very expensive and I am not convinced it is necessary for heavy jigging.
Title: Re: mono or fluro???
Post by: Greg Burt on August 04, 2007, 08:14:09 AM
I usually use Duel HD FC on my heavy jig rig for its high strength to diameter [150 lb rating / 80 lb thickness], if this is actually more abrasion resistant I can't say but it seems 'tougher' than standard FC and a lot tougher than mono.
 At the moment I'm also using FC as a 800mm bite leader on my twisted leaders as well and also have been happy giving them a go jigging. ;D
 In saying all this about FC most guys I jig are happy using mono windons [lazy buggers]. ::) ;)

PS: HD FC is a lot dearer than std FC, which makes for very expensive leaders, but it works for me as I don't seem to change leaders often, which gives me confidence in my system.
Title: Re: mono or fluro???
Post by: Jay Burgess on August 04, 2007, 04:01:13 PM
I'm not sure it is really necessary for popping and jigging, and like Brandon mentioned it is pretty expensive.

I'm sure there are other kinds of fishing though, particularly ones that require a bit more finesse that fluorocarbon has it's place.

I'm going to give it a go this year on barra, see if it improves my catch rate.
Title: Re: mono or fluro???
Post by: Jon Li on August 05, 2007, 12:04:45 AM
I use fluorocarbon leader as " bite " leader , when GT/Tuna popping using stickbait but still connect it to a long mono leader .

As for barra fishing , fluorocarbon leader is an improvement over mono leader but still get abraded by the gill plates of the barra , over times .

Jon .
Title: Re: mono or fluro???
Post by: Cam Foley on August 05, 2007, 07:20:24 AM
I only use fluorocarbon as a leader for soft baits this is a lot better than mono when using the soft bait and the hook up rate is improved a lot,
Title: Re: mono or fluro???
Post by: Matt Hill on August 09, 2007, 09:16:33 PM
thanks for the replies guys i fish both with plastics and do find the fluro alot more abrasive resistant. going to get some 130lb fluro and give it a run soon.


cheers matt
Title: Re: mono or fluro???
Post by: Greg Burt on August 10, 2007, 07:09:45 PM
Jon, if you don't mind me asking, how long do you make your bite leader and how do you connect to your mono.
 
Title: Re: mono or fluro???
Post by: Jon Li on August 10, 2007, 07:21:45 PM
Jon, if you don't mind asking, how long do you make your bite leader and how do you connect to your mono.
 

Hi Greg ,

The bite leader is around 30 cm with crimped ends , I just tie the mono leader to the fluorocarbon leader as if it's the eye of a hook , so far it works and haven't experienced any slippage yet .

For GT/Tuna popping I use 180 lbs. fluorocarbon leader meant for big game trolling and for barra casting as well as other species , I use 30 ~ 80 lbs equivalent of flurocarbon leader , both are SEAGUAR brand made by Kureha . Have tried soft fluorocarbon leader made by DUEL , very good to tie directly to PE line but very expensive .

Jon .
Title: Re: mono or fluro???
Post by: Duncan O'Connell on August 11, 2007, 07:25:02 AM
I like using full length fluoro leaders (not just bite leaders) for fishing sub surface stickbaits, because it sinks quickly helping to keep the lure just under water. When working poppers though it's not so good if you like a 'do nothing' retrieve (2 or 3 big bloops then do nothing for 10-20 seconds). When you go for the next set of bloops the popper gets dragged down by the leader. It's not an issue if you work your poppers faster and can even help in really choppy conditions to keep the lure from bouncing around and tumbling all the time
Another reason I like using fluoro is because it has a refractive index very similar to water, making it less visible under water than mono. I know this definitely affects the catch rate compared to mono leaders when light tackle fishing, but I'm not sure if it translates to more hookups on twisted 100lb! Maybe it's just a confidence thing.

Duncan
Title: Re: mono or fluro???
Post by: Luke Wyrsta on August 13, 2007, 08:45:31 PM
Standard mono shock leader for popping with chuggers/bloopers/pencils (no real need for FC because the leader is out of the water 95% of the time).

Uni-knotted FC 'bite' leader to standard mono shock leader (or twisty) for working stickbaits if fish are fussey but i don't have a problem also using standard mono shock leader (particularly supple Fisherman and Varivas).