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Topwater Caranx Ignobilis: Giant Trevally (GT) => Tackle & Techniques => Topic started by: Saikat Barik on July 03, 2012, 05:54:14 PM
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Hello everybody,
My query is about the lightest PE 8 rod available...
Also some nice backbone is appreciable
Regards,
Saiki
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Hi Saikat
I think the boys would love to help you. Just give some more information on lure type (poppers or stickbaits?), weights etc. and it would be a lot easier to help you.
Best regards,
Peter
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Hi Saikat ,
Carpenter CV79/40RF weighs nominally 385 gr. , designed for stickbait / medium popper works while Carpenter SP80M weighs 400 gr. , design for popper / stickbait works . Both are known for good backbone and already proven big fish getters .
Jon .
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Both those Carpenter rods are superstars for sure.
As Peter says though, it is really dependent on what type of lures you want to work.
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I think it is only fair to point out that there are lighter rods but there is no magic in the formula. The lighter rods generally have less wraps of graphite - so they're not as resilient. It comes down to what is more important to you.
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Brandon ,
You are so correct ! ;)
Jon .
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hey man i use a Yamaga blanks Atlas its 7.6ft and is pe8 i have it with a stella 20k use poppers and stickbaits with it works a treat rods really light and had the backbone to pull in some big GT's on my last trip. also some bohemuth sharks ahaha
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Thanks everyone,
I'm 5.7" and weigh roughly about 75Kg...
Intend to use poppers and stickbaits around 180gm max...
Also I prefer shorter rod...7.6 or 7.8 ft
Regards,
Saiki
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Have a look at the hots 77xh very light n good for pe8.
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Thanks everyone,
I'm 5.7" and weigh roughly about 75Kg...
Intend to use poppers and stickbaits around 180gm max...
Also I prefer shorter rod...7.6 or 7.8 ft
Regards,
Saiki
Hi Saiki
It depends a lot on whether you really want to use 180 gram chuggers. A big-faced chugger in that weight range will require a fairly serious stiff-tipped rod. If though you are intending to use stickbaits up to that weight but limit the chuggers to more like 150 grams, then lighter weight rods will do the job.
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I was checking my poppers once again...
Mostly they are in the range of 110-130gms,
I am stuck between three rods: RF GT78 powerfight (as i would be getting this rod li'l cheaper), Yamaga Blanks Atlas GT 76/8, Kaiser El toro 150 V2
Any suggestions?
Regards
Saiki
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If you can get a Powerfight in the same price range as the other two options, then take it for sure. In that list you have two very good mid-market rods and one high end rod.
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Hi Saikat,
From the way it seems to me and the way Mark saw it, you are looking for a mid-market rod.
if this is exactly what you are looking for and budget is limited, I would go by what Christoffer suggested to you, the Hot's 77XH.
light,more forgiving and easy to load.
I find the Yamaga Blank Atlas 76/8 a bit stiff for Stickbait, it is more as a popper rod. if you are looking for a rod for both usage, i suggest softer tip to be able to work your stickbait.
Good luck :)
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Okay finally it's between Hots 77XH and Yamaga 76/8...
Which one...?
Saiki
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The ElToro is an amazing rod for the price. I have used a friends twice and loved it. Super light, works stickbaits beautifully as well as poppers to 150g comfortably!
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I own the 77XH.
One of the determining factors for me was that I am also short and stocky (wish I weighed 75 kilos though) and I found that the Hot's had a much shorter reach to the top grip than a lot of rods I tried.
I can think of nothing worse than being connected to something that wants to pull you overboard and you can't get any leverage on the rod because you're stretching to reach the grip!
Regards,
Trevor
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I was decided upon this rod: Yamaga Blanks Atlas GT 76/8...
Then another model came up in the website: Yamaga Blanks Blue Reef 78/8...
Comparatively this been a newer rod...there's few review on the net,
Have anyone used this rod personally?
Please give me a review...
Saiki
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Saikat.. can't give you review as such, but the Blue Reefs are quite soft tipped and primarily designed for stickbaits I believe.
If you want an all round rod, the the Atlas would probably be a better bet.
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Thanks Mark,
I'd stick to the atlas :-)
Saiki
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Got another problem guys...
I got a Stella 18000HG JDM to match this rod,
Somehow this ain't working...
Rod seems ok with my Twinpower 12000HG JDM...
Should I match this rod that way with TP and buy another rod to stella?
Stella seems overkill for this rod...balance is not good :(
Please help me guys...
Saiki
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Please help
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Hi Saikat :),
Try the HOTS Gipang 79XH model with your Stella. I feel it's a good all rounder for poppers and stick baits and balanced with PE 8 is comfortable to use and good backbone to fight with, well this is my few times in use anyway.
Poppers and stickbaits that you mentioned earlier say 110-130 grams to max 180 grams should be O.K.......but depends also if distance casting is also your main aim or just working weights comfortably and distance casting isn't the aim.
Other much more experienced forum members could elaborate on performance of the 79XH model.......with experiences in poppers and/or stickbaits weight working.
Hope I haven't confused your situation Saikat.
Regards
Leo :)
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Saikat - not sure why you feel the SW18000 does not balance with an Atlas 76/8? It should be fine.
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I think I know what Saikat means.
Perhaps he can correct me if I'm wrong, he may have a lot more experience than I have with this type of equipment.
I have a very similar set up...a Hots 77XH and an SW18000. I think the feeling that the reel outpowers the rod comes from the fact that these rods are light and don't look substantial enough to be able to withstand 100lb line (in fact having held both the Hot's is even lighter than the Atlas). Not so long ago a rod the dimensions of my Hot's would have been a 30-40lb rod.
I think that it all comes together when you use the rod and reel together on the water. I have yet to get connected to a big GT and my casting abilities are flatteringly described as improving but some of the very experineced guys I go to for advice tell me its all good. In fact, one of them borrowed my rod last weekend when we were fishing to have a feel of it and launched a 150g popper a country mile. I'm sure that when it comes to fighting a fish the fact that the reel is overengineered is a good thing.
Hope this helps.
Regards,
Trevor
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Right on spot Trevor...
Mark rod weighs so light...:(
I use Varivas pe8...Stella with this big spool, somehow asking for a heavier rod,
Well may be that's my guess only...
Saiki
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Hmmmm. The Atlas 76.8 is a fairly stiff genuine PE8 rod, admittedly light in weight. I think the pairing with a SW18000 is fine.
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I have my Atlas Set up with SW 20 000. Works fine I don't notis that it's out of Balance