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Title: assist hooks for doggies
Post by: dylan squarci on February 01, 2013, 12:54:34 PM
Hi guys. I need a bit of help with assist hooks on jigs for doggies. What chord is best to use and where do i get it from, bear in mind i dont want to spend a lot of money as its already expensive enough losing 30 jigs a day.
Title: Re: assist hooks for doggies
Post by: Mark Harris on February 01, 2013, 01:06:47 PM
Losing 30 jigs a day?  What are you doing?!!!

For assist cord, I think Kevlar is the cheapest viable solution.  You should find kevlar cord available at any decent tackle store that caters for customers who jig.
Title: Re: assist hooks for doggies
Post by: dylan squarci on February 01, 2013, 01:30:10 PM
yeah, 30. it was crazy. most were lost to sharks. ill have to go searching for some then, is there anywhere online i can get some?
Title: Re: assist hooks for doggies
Post by: Mark Harris on February 01, 2013, 01:37:00 PM
Here is an example for you Dylan http://www.fishhead.com.au/store/products/Varivas-SS-Assist.html

Please do not think that it will stop bite offs though. Nothing will bar wired or chain linked assists and usually they do not work very well.
Title: Re: assist hooks for doggies
Post by: dylan squarci on February 01, 2013, 01:44:02 PM
thanks Mark. what poundage do you recommend. i will be doubling the chord, tying it too the hook, then looping it onto a solid ring. We were using wire to prevent bite offs but not only did it kink and break, it also caught a heap of sharks. from now on i dont mind loosing hooks instead of catching sharks.
Title: Re: assist hooks for doggies
Post by: Mark Harris on February 01, 2013, 02:03:08 PM
Size 50 should be big enough.
Title: Re: assist hooks for doggies
Post by: Brandon Khoo on February 01, 2013, 02:09:48 PM
Dylan, if you are losing thirty jigs, the cost of the hooks should be the least of your problems!!  ;D
Title: Re: assist hooks for doggies
Post by: dylan squarci on February 01, 2013, 02:22:00 PM
thanks Mark. i know Brendon, we are now looking at buys jigs from some wholesalers at under $2 each in 100 peice lots. it will only take 3 trips to loose them all  :-\
Title: Re: assist hooks for doggies
Post by: Brandon Khoo on February 01, 2013, 02:26:23 PM
 :o
Title: Re: assist hooks for doggies
Post by: Dan Konig on February 01, 2013, 02:33:41 PM
Out of interest Dylan where are you fishing?!
Title: Re: assist hooks for doggies
Post by: dylan squarci on February 01, 2013, 03:35:26 PM
just inside the shelf off the gbr near cairns
Title: Re: assist hooks for doggies
Post by: Trevor Skinner on February 01, 2013, 04:20:36 PM
A Mustad 14/0 and 4 metres of 600lb cable!

You might not catch many doggies but you'll stop losing your jigs (maybe)

Oh, and a flying gaff
Title: Re: assist hooks for doggies
Post by: dylan squarci on February 01, 2013, 06:06:58 PM
hahahahahaha, "we need a bigger boat"
Title: Re: assist hooks for doggies
Post by: Mark Harris on February 01, 2013, 06:22:29 PM
thanks Mark. i know Brendon, we are now looking at buys jigs from some wholesalers at under $2 each in 100 peice lots. it will only take 3 trips to loose them all  :-\

And then the cost of leader, hook, swivel, solid ring and split ring!

There must be a hell of lot of sharks where you fish!
Title: Re: assist hooks for doggies
Post by: dylan squarci on February 04, 2013, 01:21:40 PM
exactly Mark. Then also the time it takes rigging the jigs, its rediculous.
Title: Re: assist hooks for doggies
Post by: Grant Zietsman on August 14, 2013, 02:17:15 PM
Not sure if you have already made the purchase, however I have found that we were loosing heaps of jigs and all the bling to Spanish.
I have since then tracked down jigging assist cord to the yatch boys. they sell the same stuff for much cheaper!
I went through whitworths, i got the equivalent in the prefered diameter for a rediculous price...think 100m cost me approx $70, pretty sure that will last me and my crew a very long time!!!
Title: Re: assist hooks for doggies
Post by: Dan Konig on August 14, 2013, 06:47:39 PM
Hi Grant

Out of interest, what is the cable that you are using? Do you know what it is called on the Whitworths site? Thought it might be worth a look but can't see anything on there that looks suitable (though perhaps I'm looking in the wrong spot).

Cheers

Dan
Title: Re: assist hooks for doggies
Post by: Brandon Khoo on August 14, 2013, 07:35:31 PM
Spaniards will make a mess out of normal assist cord. Zylon is more resilient but if the spaniards are really bad, you need wire or use a few split rings inatead.
Title: Re: assist hooks for doggies
Post by: Grant Zietsman on August 30, 2013, 11:12:25 AM
Hi Grant

Out of interest, what is the cable that you are using? Do you know what it is called on the Whitworths site? Thought it might be worth a look but can't see anything on there that looks suitable (though perhaps I'm looking in the wrong spot).

Cheers

Dan

Dan,

It is 2mm Spectra...I bough the 100m spool, but see that there are other options 10m - 1000m
Just come back from Vanuatu and had no drama with assist cord it worked a treat!
Brandon is right, when the Spanish come on the bite you may lose a hook or two but then you just change up to something appropriate.
Code for it was BRY0251M - Donaghys seems to be the brand.
Mate bought a 10m spool last night for $12....

Hope that helps!
Title: Re: assist hooks for doggies
Post by: Dan Konig on August 30, 2013, 05:15:00 PM
Thanks Grant, I'll give it a go.

If the stated figures of 2mm and 295kg break load are correct then it seems to be roughly double the strength per diameter that this Varivas is? (unless my maths is dodgy?!)
http://yeehaa.co.nz/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=600
that Varivas being roughly 1.8mm but 117kg break load and in the region of triple the price

Be interesting to see what the bite resistance is like. Did you try it with any dogtooth or similar?