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Title: Product testing report
Post by: Tak Otsuka on February 28, 2012, 09:29:37 AM
Hi all,

Brandon has kindly written report from our recent product testing trip to New Caledonia.

http://www.carpenterlures.com.au/report/20120114-test.aspx (http://www.carpenterlures.com.au/report/20120114-test.aspx)

We can release only limited information before we complete testing for each model but hope you can get some idea for what may be available in the future.

Cheers,
Tak
Title: Re: Product testing report
Post by: Jay Burgess on February 28, 2012, 10:14:06 AM
TBL 80/40.... exactly what I've been waiting for from Carpenter! 8)
Title: Re: Product testing report
Post by: Tak Otsuka on February 28, 2012, 11:28:04 AM
TBL 80/40 has been tested for some time now with a few different prototypes and we actually had one of them on our Brisbane casting day in last October.
Title: Re: Product testing report
Post by: Jay Burgess on February 28, 2012, 11:42:13 AM
Any idea when this rod will be available?
Title: Re: Product testing report
Post by: Tak Otsuka on February 28, 2012, 11:54:41 AM
It is still prototype. It still need to go through testing for Kenji San to decide whether he will bring it to the market.

Cheers,
Tak
Title: Re: Product testing report
Post by: Andy Rowe on February 28, 2012, 11:58:13 AM
"LIKE"

Thanks for the write-up Brandon, very looking forward to the new TBL80/40.

I know you can't say anything on the 43, but can you tell us if you prferred it with poppers or stickbaits?? :)
Title: Re: Product testing report
Post by: Mark Harris on February 28, 2012, 12:06:45 PM
Brilliant write up Brandon and thank you so much for sharing at this early stage.

Brandon and Tak, how does the TBL 80/40 differ from MH80H?  I am sure it must have a softer tip but how much softer please?

MH80H was I understand primarily designed to work Gamma 200s.

New SeaFrogs  are very eagerly awaited by me and I am sure others who still fish a lot with chuggers (i.e. the non-Japanese!).
Title: Re: Product testing report
Post by: Wan Izhan on February 28, 2012, 01:11:33 PM
- EP 86/40R-P1
- TBL 80/40
- TBL 83/32


Hopefully Kenji can made the sub390g for these rods.....

cheers
Izhan
Title: Re: Product testing report
Post by: Jay Burgess on February 28, 2012, 02:19:49 PM

New SeaFrogs  are very eagerly awaited by me and I am sure others who still fish a lot with chuggers (i.e. the non-Japanese!).

It's a bit like that, starting to get to the point where I feel a bit 'old skool' using chuggers  :-\
Title: Re: Product testing report
Post by: Mark Harris on February 28, 2012, 02:34:00 PM
Indeed Jay :) . And even more old school when zipping along pencils. I have fished with a quite a few guys who don't even own a pencil!
Title: Re: Product testing report
Post by: Jay Burgess on February 28, 2012, 02:38:15 PM
Indeed Jay :) . And even more old school when zipping along pencils. I have fished with a quite a few guys who don't even own a pencil!

LPB swears by them, and Rudy can work a long pen like a demon... deadly effective  :)

Can't wait to try my Kattobi's.
Title: Re: Product testing report
Post by: Mark Harris on February 28, 2012, 02:47:38 PM
This is going off topic a bit (my fault!), but I personally love fishing with pencils.

Kattobi is really nice Jay - being heavily back weighted, it casts an absolute mile, and skips along the surface very authentically.  Just be a little bit careful as it sinks fast, so get your retrieve going quickly - thanks to Brandon for that tip.
Title: Re: Product testing report
Post by: Brandon Khoo on February 28, 2012, 02:54:08 PM
Like chalk and cheese, Mark.

If the MH80H was designed primarily for the 200 Gamma, Kenji San would have had to go back to the drawing board! The rod has a significantly stiffer tip than what would be ideal for a 200 Gamma. The prototype TBL 80/40 has a significantly softer tip.

The new SFs in the larger sizes are still some time away. Just need to be patient till we get it to a standard that will satisfy Kenji San - that is hard work!

Brilliant write up Brandon and thank you so much for sharing at this early stage.

Brandon and Tak, how does the TBL 80/40 differ from MH80H?  I am sure it must have a softer tip but how much softer please?

MH80H was I understand primarily designed to work Gamma 200s.

New SeaFrogs  are very eagerly awaited by me and I am sure others who still fish a lot with chuggers (i.e. the non-Japanese!).
Title: Re: Product testing report
Post by: Mark Harris on February 28, 2012, 03:01:45 PM
Thanks Brandon.

I guess "primarily" was the wrong word there.. whoops  :-[.  I know that you and others have put MH80H forward as a rod that handles Gamma 200s nicely enough, and it is currently the only rod I use that lure with (it's too heavy for EP 82/38 for example).
Title: Re: Product testing report
Post by: Brandon Khoo on February 28, 2012, 06:55:12 PM
Mark, at the end of the day, it is matter of what is ideal versus what is useable.
I can work a Gamma 200 decently with a SP78UHL but in that instance, the rod doesn't help much!


Thanks Brandon.

I guess "primarily" was the wrong word there.. whoops  :-[.  I know that you and others have put MH80H forward as a rod that handles Gamma 200s nicely enough, and it is currently the only rod I use that lure with (it's too heavy for EP 82/38 for example).
Title: Re: Product testing report
Post by: Mark Harris on February 28, 2012, 09:06:11 PM
Sure Brandon.. point well and truly understood. I used the wrong words there in the original post.
Title: Re: Product testing report
Post by: Brandon Khoo on February 29, 2012, 06:43:46 AM
Wan, I am not sure of the weights and you can only place so much credence on the weight of a prototype. That said, Carpenter or any of the other GT rod manufacturers could make a 250 GT rod BUT the simple reality is the lighter the rod, the less strong it is and the more prone to breakage it is. There are a number of rods that are pushing the 350g barrier these days but its a compromise. The more a manufacturer pushes the barrow on weight, the greater the risk of a breakage.

Personally, I'd prefer the surety that 40-50g more provides.


- EP 86/40R-P1
- TBL 80/40
- TBL 83/32


Hopefully Kenji can made the sub390g for these rods.....

cheers
Izhan
Title: Re: Product testing report
Post by: Antonino Augugliaro on February 29, 2012, 06:51:58 PM
Nice news! rods I was waiting for!!!  :)
I hope these models will be available soon... Expecilly TBL80/40 and 45-46 lbs model...
Title: Re: Product testing report
Post by: Christoffer Hansen on April 11, 2012, 02:20:20 PM
Hi tak,

Any more news on release of the tbl80/40? Also will carpenter be extending the monster hunter range to include a pe10-12 rod sometime in the near future?
Cheers chris
Title: Re: Product testing report
Post by: Tak Otsuka on April 11, 2012, 03:12:20 PM
Hi Chris,

As far as I know, TBL80/40 won't be delivered this year.

We have some prototype of heavier Monster Hunter and some people had a look one of them on our Casting day in Brisbane last year. They are still prototype as of today.

Cheers,
Tak
Title: Re: Product testing report
Post by: Wan Izhan on April 15, 2012, 01:25:33 AM
Hi Chris,

As far as I know, TBL80/40 won't be delivered this year.

We have some prototype of heavier Monster Hunter and some people had a look one of them on our Casting day in Brisbane last year. They are still prototype as of today.

Cheers,
Tak

I have been told by Malaysia Carpenter agent that he has received ordering form for TBL80/40. But not sure about the delivery date. Hopefully can get it before my Hallinayat...TBL80/40 already the Capenter catalogue.

Cheers
Izhan
Title: Re: Product testing report
Post by: Tak Otsuka on April 16, 2012, 12:22:58 AM
They won't be delivered this year.



Hi Chris,

As far as I know, TBL80/40 won't be delivered this year.

We have some prototype of heavier Monster Hunter and some people had a look one of them on our Casting day in Brisbane last year. They are still prototype as of today.

Cheers,
Tak

I have been told by Malaysia Carpenter agent that he has received ordering form for TBL80/40. But not sure about the delivery date. Hopefully can get it before my Hallinayat...TBL80/40 already the Capenter catalogue.

Cheers
Izhan
Title: Re: Product testing report
Post by: Tak Otsuka on May 06, 2012, 10:41:36 AM
We have now decided to move heavier Monster Hunter to production and I'll post some preview shortly ;)


Also will carpenter be extending the monster hunter range to include a pe10-12 rod sometime in the near future?
Title: Re: Product testing report
Post by: Kasey Leong on May 06, 2012, 03:52:17 PM
Can I have one, Tak?