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Extreme Jigging: Dogtooth Tuna, Yellowtail Kingfish (Hiramasa), Amberjack, Samson Fish => Tackle & Techniques => Topic started by: Anesh Patel on December 06, 2010, 09:57:27 PM
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Here are some pic's of my Custom Synit DeepShot Seriola Elite series overhead rod being built. These are all extra options you can upgrade to when ordering a Synit Deepshot.
SYNIT DS SERIOLA 5.1 180g -550g Synit Antacid spiral wrap
Max 22kg Drag at 45 degrees, PE5 - PE10, jig range 180 - 550g
Hope you like what you see.......I will be breaking this rod in on some Samson in Fremantle in January and some Kingfish at White Island in NZ over New Years. i will also take it to Portland to have a go jigging some Bluefin Tuna mid next year. It is a very versatile rod due to the the jig range. Lighter jigs for targeting tuna and heavier jigs when targeting Kingfish or Samson in deepwater and strong currents.
Custom Laser Etching on Gimble
(http://s3.postimage.org/zf5pw5qc/Synit_DS_Seriola_Custom_Gimble.jpg) (http://www.postimage.org/)
Matagi Fuji Reel Seat
(http://s3.postimage.org/zhoog8w4/Synit_DS_Seriola_Matagi_Reel_Seat.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/zhoog8w4/)
Seriola Laser Etching
(http://s3.postimage.org/zj5lncp0/Synit_DS_Seriola_katakana_script.jpg) (http://www.postimage.org/)
DeepShot Laser Etching
(http://s3.postimage.org/zkrhghz8/Synit_DS_Seriola_Laser_Etching.jpg) (http://www.postimage.org/)
Synit DS Seriola Katakana Script encraving
(http://s3.postimage.org/znuagr2c/Synit_DS_Seriola.jpg) (http://www.postimage.org/)
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Anesh - any comments on how the Deepshot blank action compares to a Venom?
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Hi Anesh,
Nice looking rod, what reel / line set up will you put on it? is there a similar rod for spin?
I don't know a lot about jigging but that looks like a wide jig range for 5'1", I'll be interested to hear how it handles lures at either end of the spectrum.
Please keep us updated as I'd like to hear more about what appears to be a very versatile rod based on the spec you give.
Cheers
Andy
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I've got a spin version to test on the Sambos off Perth/WA, I hope to get out over the weekend and see how it fares.
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Anesh - any comments on how the Deepshot blank action compares to a Venom?
Hi Mark,
Deepshot is slightly more parabolic compared to Venom and instead of Kevlar butt reinforcement there is a 3K carbon weave low on the butt. This material change gives more lifting power with a slower action.
On a side note, one of our customers just landed a nice 58kg doggie on a V550FT 5'2" in Tanzania. The same guy fought an est 300kg bull shark to boatside with the V550FT in March this year and in Tanzania too :) They have 2 more days to go, looking forward to the report...will be epic for sure!
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Thanks for that mate. Not too much difference in the blank action it sounds? Will Synit continue running the two ranges side-by-side or is the Deep Shot intended to supercede the Venom?
The Venom 550FT is a truly superb rod so not too surprised to hear those Cr's from Tanzania :).
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Anesh - any comments on how the Deepshot blank action compares to a Venom?
Hi Mark,
Deepshot is slightly more parabolic compared to Venom and instead of Kevlar butt reinforcement there is a 3K carbon weave low on the butt. This material change gives more lifting power with a slower action.
On a side note, one of our customers just landed a nice 58kg doggie on a V550FT 5'2" in Tanzania. The same guy fought an est 300kg bull shark to boatside with the V550FT in March this year and in Tanzania too :) They have 2 more days to go, looking forward to the report...will be epic for sure!
Couldn't explain it better myself Mark.....
As you stock the Venom and have used the DS150 on Sailfish earlier this year. I know you will be stocking the Deepshot series soon.
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Thanks for that mate. Not too much difference in the blank action it sounds? Will Synit continue running the two ranges side-by-side or is the Deep Shot intended to supercede the Venom?
The Venom 550FT is a truly superb rod so not too surprised to hear those Cr's from Tanzania :).
As the Deepshot has more lifting power and newer technology it is intended to supercede the Venom.
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Hi Anesh,
Nice looking rod, what reel / line set up will you put on it? is there a similar rod for spin?
I don't know a lot about jigging but that looks like a wide jig range for 5'1", I'll be interested to hear how it handles lures at either end of the spectrum.
Please keep us updated as I'd like to hear more about what appears to be a very versatile rod based on the spec you give.
Cheers
Andy
Thanks Andy, I will be matching mine to a Ocea Jigger 5000p with PE8
There is also a SPIN version with exactly the same specs.
In fact the whole Deepshot series come in Spin or Synit Antacid Spiral Wrap(overhead)
Specs for the Deepshot range
DS150 5.5 Spin and Synit Antacid spiral wrap
Max 9kg Drag at 45 degrees, PE1 - PE3, jig range 80-250g
DS250 5.2 Spin and Synit Antacid spiral wrap
Max 13kg Drag at 45 degrees, PE3 - PE5, jig range 150 - 350g
DS350 5.2 Spin and Synit Antacid spiral wrap
Max 16kg Drag at 45 degrees, PE5 - PE8, jig range 200 - 450g
DS350 4.9 Short Barrel Spin and Synit Antacid spiral wrap
Max 16kg Drag at 45 degrees, PE5 - PE8, jig range 200 - 450g
DS450 5.2 Spin and Synit Antacid Spiral wrap
Max 20kg Drag at 45 degrees, PE6- PE10, jig range 250 - 600g
DS SERIOLA 5.1 180g -550g Spin and Synit Antacid spiral wrap
Max 22kg Drag at 45 degrees, PE5 - PE10, jig range 180 - 550g
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The jig size ranges for each model are surprisingly large??
Eg 180 to 500 grams for the same rod. I struggle to see how a jig rod handles acceptably jigs so light they "almost not there" (180 grams) and a 500 gram lump!
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I'm looking forward to having a little play with the new gear in freo. Not long now mate.
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The jig size ranges for each model are surprisingly large??
Eg 180 to 500 grams for the same rod. I struggle to see how a jig rod handles acceptably jigs so light they "almost not there" (180 grams) and a 500 gram lump!
Similar to how the Japanese rods like a Carpenter 52XH One Hundred series has a jig range of 350g - 1200g OR
how a MC Works Southern Blue Akabara Special 516SS has a jig range of 200g - 500g
If you have used one of the rods above you may get a better understanding.
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I'm looking forward to having a little play with the new gear in freo. Not long now mate.
Yeah looking forward to it to mate!!! :)
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The jig size ranges for each model are surprisingly large??
Eg 180 to 500 grams for the same rod. I struggle to see how a jig rod handles acceptably jigs so light they "almost not there" (180 grams) and a 500 gram lump!
Similar to how the Japanese rods like a Carpenter 52XH One Hundred series has a jig range of 350g - 1200g OR
how a MC Works Southern Blue Akabara Special 516SS has a jig range of 200g - 500g
If you have used one of the rods above you may get a better understanding.
In my experience - I own a 55XH (its 55XH not 52XH) for example - fantastic rod for 500 grams and above, very poor for working lighter jigs - it does not work like that. How can the same jig rod be sensitive enough at the tip to work a 180 gram jig and have enough stiffness at the tip to work a 500 gram jig? Manufacturers make these claims but they do not make sense nor stand up in the field IMO.
It is like trying to work an 80 gram surface stickbait and a 220 gram chugger with the same casting rod - it will not work.
Nothing against Synit by the way. I am a very happy owner of a Venom 550FT - works 400 gram to 600 gram jigs very nicely.
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No offence taken Mark, I should have explained it better.
The blanks are made on a special mandrel and the blank is rolled from a carbon mix that allows it to load from a different section of the tip to work the jig and allow the blank to recover when using heavier jigs. It also eliminates the jarring when using the lighter jig weights. This was the sole purpose when Synit started designing the Seriola.
If you own a Venom and so do i, you will love the Deepshot mate, different feel ( more parabolic but with more lift . If your in Aussie PM me and I don't mind sending you one up to have a play with as I already have a spin version without so much bling ;) Better to try it out and make your own opinion.
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No offence taken Mark, I should have explained it better.
The blanks are made on a special mandrel and the blank is rolled from a carbon mix that allows it to load from a different section of the tip to work the jig and allow the blank to recover when using heavier jigs. It also eliminates the jarring when using the lighter jig weights. This was the sole purpose when Synit started designing the Seriola.
If you own a Venom and so do i, you will love the Deepshot mate, different feel ( more parabolic but with more lift . If your in Aussie PM me and I don't mind sending you one up to have a play with as I already have a spin version without so much bling ;) Better to try it out and make your own opinion.
And certainly no offence taken Anesh. I hope you saw my point. Your explanation is quite compelling.
I am not in Aus so cannot take you up on that kind offer. Next time I am in Singapore though I will have a pull on one at Kaiser for sure.
Your custom job looks great BTW.
Cheers.
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Cheers Mark,
And just to follow up on your original question. Here is a quote from Graeme from SYNIT rods NZ.
180g-550g Jig range
Those are the rods max limit ranges, it best optimum jig range is 200-450g but if you want to swing a 550g jig can although you may loose a bit of the feel at this range.
The objective for this rod wasn't to make a one rod does all more to have a rod that will swing lighter jigs in the sub 300g for big fish in the mid water like Bluefin Tuna as the blank has a huge power reserve in the mid and butt section for fish in the 30-120kg range. Because of the fast ram up in the mandrel and the carbon mix we quickly found was it is equally at home swinging jigs in the 400g range for Puka, Bass, Bluenose and deeper water species. The Seriola name came about for the Aussie boys chasing Samson Fish (Seriola Hippos) a cuzzy of our NZ Kingfish.
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Hi Mark,
The thing that allows Synit blanks to work a wide range of jigs is probably the thin tip diameter and the mandrel taper.
I have worked a 220g Hooker up to a 860g Skill-L and even 1kg Jazz jig with the V550 4'8". Hard work with the Jazz 1kg of course :o But it can be done! And you still get reasonably good jig action across the whole range of jig weights...But of course the V550 feels more comfortable with jigs from 300-600g which is still a very wide range...
If you try to work the same range of jigs 300-600g with say blank with a larger tip diameter and slower taper like some JM blanks or a very fast actioned blank like say a calstar 760L which loads and locks quickly, I think you'd fine that the 300-600g range would be be narrowed considerably. The more parabolic blanks like the JM would probably work jigs closer to the upper 400g-600g range better while the fast calstar would work the jigs closer to 300g better....JM used to make blanks in 50g intervals...100g 150g, 200g, 250g, 400, 450g etc...perhaps because of taper they use which narrows the optimal range of jig weights?
The first thing our builder remarked when he saw the Venom blanks was that the blank had a very fine tip...and this is from a guy who has built over 600 JMs. He has used the Synit Venom blanks on many occasions now and is convinced that they can work a wider range of jigs.
Here's an interesting review on the USA Tuna 200...I think the author describes the feel of a Synit quite well...
http://www.saltyheads.com/forum/topics/new-synit-tuna-pro-review?xg_source=activity&id=6339926%3ATopic%3A3955&page=1#comments (http://www.saltyheads.com/forum/topics/new-synit-tuna-pro-review?xg_source=activity&id=6339926%3ATopic%3A3955&page=1#comments)
I was playing with this blank in the shop this afternoon...when cropped in a certain pattern this blank forms the basis of the DS Seriola...comparing this blank with the V550 5'2" and 4'8" I can see why Synit says it has a lot more power reserve in the butt...this will be a very nice blank for big seriolas and doggies for sure!
cheers
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Mark, thanks so much for that explanation.
I can see myself being very tempted by a DeepShot.
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Hey guys jus wondering on an approx price n where to purchase a DS Seriola? In the market for a new jig rod might b worth having a look at.
Cheers.
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Not sure where you are Sam but there is no Australian distro at present, so its either through Synit NZ, or via a reseller like KPS.
Just waiting to get a few pics back from Al Bevan's Shikari Charters, the rod performed really well on 200-400g jigs, but the weather blew up before I got around to trying anything larger. The rod handled the sambos we were on fine, and it took a benchmarked 15kg of drag a lot better than I did.
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Hey Sam,
Within Australia please contact Duncan at Fishhead as he is taking orders for any of the Synit Deepshot range of rods, as he will be stocking the full range after the New Year.
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Excellent, I hadn't heard that Duncan had picked these up already!
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Looking forward to receiving my DS Seriola in the new year :D
But the Venoms are no push-over either...here is a nice doggie landed 2 weeks ago in Tanzania by a Singaporean angler...estimated at 58kg.
(http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/5739/doggie2.jpg) (http://img840.imageshack.us/i/doggie2.jpg/)
Tanzanian Doggie with J & M on Venom 550FT
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Looks the goods!
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Hi Guys,
Yes, we will be stocking a range of Deepshots in the new year. Something i am looking foward to very much!
If you would like to be notified when our shipment arrives please just let me know and i will write you up to be contacted when they arrive.
The Deepshot 150 we had here a while ago got a hell of a workout as you can see by the picture below! That's me hooked up to a ~15kg Kingfish in 25m of water!
(http://s1.postimage.org/1ym9au85g/IMG_0494.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/1ym9au85g/)
Cheers
Tom
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Yes, we will be stocking a range of Deepshots in the new year. Something i am looking foward to very much!
Nice! :D
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Superb Doggie that. I would say 58 kgs might be a little bit low.
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Superb Doggie that. I would say 58 kgs might be a little bit low.
Agree Mark,