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Title: twist leader connection to bite leader
Post by: Jose Guedes on January 14, 2014, 09:46:14 PM
Hi,first time in the forum,a fantastic forum.
How do you connect the twisted leader to the bite leader?
Title: Re: twist leader connection to bite leader
Post by: Leo Sorbello on January 17, 2014, 02:17:36 PM
Hi Jose  :),

Welcome to this forum.

When I've used a twisted leader of 140 lb's connected to a say 5 - 6 ft 80-120lb's bite leader a mate of mine tied them for me using a " roll knot ".. I've not tied this myself and did not see it being tied because I gave them to my mate for him to do it for me at his time available. I've got about 12 rigs tied this way and use them sometimes. It looks quite nearly done & strong too.......and I have had no problems casting as well when I've used this rigged set up.

Normally twisted leaders is of good supple mono shock leader like Varivas & the bite leader is either mono or flouro carbon leader material. It's personal preference......Fluoro is a little too stiff for a tied twisted leader in my view.

I've not heard nor seen as many people here in Sydney, as I used to in the past people using twisty's/bite leader set up. I'm seeing more and more people using FG knots or PR knot connection these days. 

There could be the more experience GT fisherman members on here who could give other connection knots for your application question.

Tight Lines & safe fishing to you.

Regards

Leo

Title: Re: twist leader connection to bite leader
Post by: Jose Guedes on January 17, 2014, 08:16:08 PM
Hi Leo,
Thanks .I've never used twist leaders before,always use hollow braid (spliced 3/4 meters of hollow to solid main braid ) and then windon
with loop to loop.works very well but would like to give twist a try.
Thanks again,regards
Jose
Title: Re: twist leader connection to bite leader
Post by: Sami Ghandour on January 17, 2014, 09:34:23 PM
Hi Jose,

It might sound complicated but it is not, I use twisted leader for GT Fishing and tuna fishing and i am very happy with the results in general,
I converted to the twisty in about 6 years now and i would not look back,
best way is to have a hollow line as your main line, you will attach it to the twisty as a loop to loop and you just tie in over hand to the end of the twisty to hold it, after you will get a bite leader of your choice that you will tie to the twisty using a figure 8 knot, that knot is a bit bulky but will stay outside the guides, please check the following link it might give you a clear picture: http://www.saltywatertackle.com/lines/saltywater-tackle-twisted-leader-system-580.html

  Tight lines
   Sami 
Title: Re: twist leader connection to bite leader
Post by: Jose Guedes on January 17, 2014, 11:53:33 PM
Hi Sami,
Thanks,that's what i'was looking for.Do you think the fig 8 is strong enough?
Regards
Jose
Title: Re: twist leader connection to bite leader
Post by: Chris Rowbottom on January 18, 2014, 03:35:54 AM
Sami, that is a killer diagram.  I really appreciate the time you put into that.
Thank you!
Title: Re: twist leader connection to bite leader
Post by: Sami Ghandour on January 18, 2014, 09:02:13 AM
Hi Sami,
Thanks,that's what i'was looking for.Do you think the fig 8 is strong enough?
Regards
Jose

Hi Jose,
No problem with the figure 8 at all it is bulky but durable, need to wet it and tied slowly to make sure the line is lined up correctly.

Sami, that is a killer diagram.  I really appreciate the time you put into that.
Thank you!

Hi Chris,
My pleasure :)

  Tight lines
    Sami
Title: Re: twist leader connection to bite leader
Post by: Jose Guedes on January 20, 2014, 09:08:27 PM
Hi Sami,thanks for your answer.I'try the twist next march in a trip to Maldivas.Do you think the 3 nail knot is secure to close the twist?
Regards
Jose
Title: Re: twist leader connection to bite leader
Post by: Jose Guedes on January 20, 2014, 09:27:53 PM
I mean the triple nail knot.Its a streamline finish but i'm not sure if its strong enough.
Regards
Jose
Title: Re: twist leader connection to bite leader
Post by: Sami Ghandour on January 21, 2014, 04:05:36 PM
I mean the triple nail knot.Its a streamline finish but i'm not sure if its strong enough.
Regards
Jose

Hi Jose,

I had never used the triple nail knot so I can't give you an advise based on something that I never tried,
It is worth to try and if it doesn't work go back to the figure 8.

  Tight lines
    Sami
Title: Re: twist leader connection to bite leader
Post by: Jose Guedes on January 23, 2014, 03:27:04 AM
Hi Sami,
Thanks for the help.
Tight lines
Jose