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Title: (ask) popping rod for GT under 25kg
Post by: Chris_Nias on December 18, 2009, 10:31:57 AM
Guys..

Pliz help me to choice popping rod fot GT under 25kg..

In my mind is Gipang 78MH, SEED P76, P710< P83, Yamaga 76/6, 76/8, Carpenter SP80M, LR88..

Thanx

chris,
Title: Re: (ask) popping rod for GT under 25kg
Post by: Daniel Lum on December 18, 2009, 01:40:48 PM
I think any of the rods would handle fish below 25kg easily, more of a deciding factor would be the terrain/lure type which you would be fishing to help you make your decision!
Title: Re: (ask) popping rod for GT under 25kg
Post by: Luke Wyrsta on December 18, 2009, 04:02:27 PM
What line class and lure weight do you wish to fish with?
Title: Re: (ask) popping rod for GT under 25kg
Post by: Chris_Nias on December 18, 2009, 04:46:02 PM
I think with line pe5 or pe6 n with lure stick bait, pencil n chugger 120-150gr..

Sorry guys, coz my english so bad..

I'm from Nias island - Indonesia
Title: Re: (ask) popping rod for GT under 25kg
Post by: Brandon Khoo on December 18, 2009, 04:55:29 PM
Christian - you're from Nias Island and your sur-name is Nias? is this simply a coincidence or are you using a name other than your real name? if so, please note our forum rules - we request people use their real names
Title: Re: (ask) popping rod for GT under 25kg
Post by: Gus Connor on December 19, 2009, 10:23:03 AM
Hey Christian,

I also am living in Indo at the moment and the under 25kg is pretty much the norm from the rocks.  I have the LR88 and love it for both from the rocks and the boat.  It is a big advantage being able to cast that extra few meters and certainly has pleanty of grunt for fish of this size.
Thats my two bob worth anyway!
Title: Re: (ask) popping rod for GT under 25kg
Post by: Chris_Nias on December 19, 2009, 01:04:33 PM
@ Gus: LR88 is good rod but it's too long for me. Coz fight from boat n i'm just 165cm high...
Title: Re: (ask) popping rod for GT under 25kg
Post by: Brandon Khoo on December 19, 2009, 04:37:54 PM
Something like a Carpenter Coral Viper in the RF35 sounds about right
Title: Re: (ask) popping rod for GT under 25kg
Post by: Chris_Nias on December 19, 2009, 04:46:19 PM
I know carpenter coral viper is the good rod, but the problem carpenter coral viper not ready yet..

What u think about keyolhu, gipang 78mh n seed p76?
Title: Re: (ask) popping rod for GT under 25kg
Post by: Jon Li on December 19, 2009, 04:57:42 PM
I know carpenter coral viper is the good rod, but the problem carpenter coral viper not ready yet..

What u think about keyolhu, gipang 78mh n seed p76?

Carpenter rod is worth waiting for , beside we have SP80M in stock so what is stopping you , Chris ?

Jon .
Title: Re: (ask) popping rod for GT under 25kg
Post by: Brandon Khoo on December 19, 2009, 04:59:13 PM
I would prefer the SP80M over these but that is a personal thing
Title: Re: (ask) popping rod for GT under 25kg
Post by: Jon Li on December 19, 2009, 05:22:13 PM
I would prefer the SP80M over these but that is a personal thing

Hi Brandon ,

Thanks for the support , you are one of the guy they will listen to and many have benefitted from your advise .

Jon .
Title: Re: (ask) popping rod for GT under 25kg
Post by: Andy Rowe on December 19, 2009, 09:39:31 PM
Big 'thumbs up' for the SP80M   8) and it will go beyond 25kg fish quite happily if the situation requires.
Title: Re: (ask) popping rod for GT under 25kg
Post by: Chris_Nias on December 20, 2009, 01:27:36 PM
I like Coral Viper RF35 more than SP80M. Coz review RF35 nice to playing stick bait n chugger..

Any one can help me to find RF35?
Title: Re: (ask) popping rod for GT under 25kg
Post by: Brandon Khoo on December 20, 2009, 03:04:19 PM
Christian, unless someone has one available for a private sale, Carpenters are an exercise in patience. Speak to your local distributor about ordering one and then wait patiently. If you don't want to wait, opt for another brand.
Title: Re: (ask) popping rod for GT under 25kg
Post by: Chris_Nias on December 21, 2009, 12:41:45 AM
Ok brandon, I will talk to my local distributor.

About RF35, can I find the video action in youtube?
Title: Re: (ask) popping rod for GT under 25kg
Post by: Brandon Khoo on December 21, 2009, 07:25:58 AM
Sorry Christian - no idea about YouTube. What do you want this for?!
Title: Re: (ask) popping rod for GT under 25kg
Post by: Chris_Nias on December 21, 2009, 12:06:35 PM
Brandon, I think u know video of rod in youtube, n I want watch it if so
Title: Re: (ask) popping rod for GT under 25kg
Post by: Chuen Fan on December 21, 2009, 01:02:57 PM
Christian, I think what Brandon is trying to say is that he does not know of any videos of the rod on youtube. Why don't you try and do a search for it on the youtube site?
Title: Re: (ask) popping rod for GT under 25kg
Post by: Chris_Nias on December 21, 2009, 02:25:30 PM
Ooo, sorry about that, coz my english so bad..

I have to search in youtube but I don't find it..
Title: Re: (ask) popping rod for GT under 25kg
Post by: Chris_Nias on December 24, 2009, 11:38:02 PM
anyone know how much weight seed rod n carpenter rod?
Title: Re: (ask) popping rod for GT under 25kg
Post by: Jon Li on December 25, 2009, 03:47:36 AM
anyone know how much weight seed rod n carpenter rod?

SP80M - 400 gr. n CV79/40RF SHP - 385 gr. .

Jon .
Title: Re: (ask) popping rod for GT under 25kg
Post by: Chris_Nias on December 31, 2009, 08:37:11 PM
Finally go to SP80M. Beauty rod with black colour. But this rod very stif, like pe8-10 for me.

I want pair with Accurate SR30L + line PE8 + lure 100-150gr.
What u think about combination Guys...?
Title: Re: (ask) popping rod for GT under 25kg
Post by: Jon Li on December 31, 2009, 10:45:30 PM
Hi Christian ,

How did you get the rod so fast , you must own your own airline !  :o  You will find SP80M has enough backbone to subdue big GT without causing the angler to suffer much .

SR30 has history of " drag spike " so be carefull n you must maintain the drag washers in that reel .

Jon .

Title: Re: (ask) popping rod for GT under 25kg
Post by: Brandon Khoo on January 01, 2010, 12:22:01 AM
Christian, the SP80m is at most a PE8 rod. It is definitely not a PE10 rod. The reel is really very much dependent on what weight line you want to fish. If you are going to be fishing PE6 - 8 for the most part, I'd suggest you look at a 10000XG as you can always get a Studio Ocean Mark No Limits 16000 spool if you want a bit more capacity. If you want the reel fish PE8-10, then I'd suggest a Stella 18000HG or a Dogfight. Personally, I can't see any reason why you would get an Accurate over a Stella or Saltiga - but that is a personal view.
Title: Re: (ask) popping rod for GT under 25kg
Post by: Joseph Ngan on January 02, 2010, 10:03:14 AM
If you are going to be fishing PE6 - 8 for the most part, I'd suggest you look at a 10000XG as you can always get a Studio Ocean Mark No Limits 16000 spool if you want a bit more capacity.

Brandon,

How much more line will the SOM take? I can't seem to split the difference.
Title: Re: (ask) popping rod for GT under 25kg
Post by: Brandon Khoo on January 02, 2010, 10:23:44 AM
I don't have the reel in front of me but I think that it takes something like 270m of PE6. All I can say is that the SOM spool is noticeably bigger.
Title: Re: (ask) popping rod for GT under 25kg
Post by: Chuen Fan on January 02, 2010, 11:50:22 AM
PE6 300m, PE8 250m according to the specs, standard spool will fit less than 200 of PE8
Title: Re: (ask) popping rod for GT under 25kg
Post by: Chris_Nias on January 02, 2010, 12:04:21 PM
@ Jon Li: Hehehe... I'll get SP80M just two days from Jakarta to Nias.

@ Brandon Khoo: Yes Brandon, i'm looking Stella 10000XG for my SP80M. But i want to know what reason stella better than twinspin?

Yesterday i'm popping with SP80M + SR30L + PE8 + Cubera 150gr. I'm casting nonstop in three hour.
Why i'm very tired? Whether because very heavy weight or because SP80M very stif? Please give me input..

chris,
Title: Re: (ask) popping rod for GT under 25kg
Post by: Brock Arifovic on January 02, 2010, 12:12:28 PM
Might I suggest to GET FIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That would be a good start, if that fails try fishing 20lb on plastics for snapper or simply HTFU.

It really isn't that hard.

Did you happen to get/raise any fish in that 3hrs of casting? Maybe you could try a new area to fish.
Title: Re: (ask) popping rod for GT under 25kg
Post by: Brandon Khoo on January 02, 2010, 08:05:20 PM
Christian, I'm having a bit of trouble understanding your question. You're asking me why you should buy a Stella 10000 over an Accurate 30 and in the next sentence, you're complaining about getting tired?!   ???    Is this a serious question?!

Seriously though, apart from the obvious issue with weight, if you need to ask why I am recommending a Stella over an Accurate, you haven't done much research at all.




@ Jon Li: Hehehe... I'll get SP80M just two days from Jakarta to Nias.

@ Brandon Khoo: Yes Brandon, i'm looking Stella 10000XG for my SP80M. But i want to know what reason stella better than twinspin?

Yesterday i'm popping with SP80M + SR30L + PE8 + Cubera 150gr. I'm casting nonstop in three hour.
Why i'm very tired? Whether because very heavy weight or because SP80M very stif? Please give me input..

chris,
Title: Re: (ask) popping rod for GT under 25kg
Post by: Yaniv Adler on January 02, 2010, 10:54:44 PM
right on brandon you could not say it better shimano all the way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: (ask) popping rod for GT under 25kg
Post by: Chuen Fan on January 02, 2010, 11:39:21 PM
Oh no... You've just started a shimano vs ..... subthread..!!  ;)  ;D ;D ;D 
Title: Re: (ask) popping rod for GT under 25kg
Post by: Jon Li on January 02, 2010, 11:56:16 PM
@ Jon Li: Hehehe... I'll get SP80M just two days from Jakarta to Nias.

@ Brandon Khoo: Yes Brandon, i'm looking Stella 10000XG for my SP80M. But i want to know what reason stella better than twinspin?

Yesterday i'm popping with SP80M + SR30L + PE8 + Cubera 150gr. I'm casting nonstop in three hour.
Why i'm very tired? Whether because very heavy weight or because SP80M very stif? Please give me input..

chris,

Christian ,

2 days during the last few days of the year is fast , I was told by the courier service they can't promise one day service for Bali shipment , Nias Island is a little more complicated to reach than Bali .

If I am not mistaken , before this SP80M you have DJ83ML , now these 2 Carpenter rods are quite different in action n graphite modulus . DJ series are rods meant for beginners and the way to cast SP series is quite different that the " lobbing " style used for DJ series , my suggestion is you try lighter Cubera . Please note that Cubera 150 + 2 trebles + splitrings can become 175 gr. or more depending on the type of trebles n size of splitrings and this weight is very close to the stated " lure weight " of SP80M which is 190 gr. .

Another advise is to do exercise as Brock advised but my suggestion is you practice casting more often using 100 ~ 125 gr. lures and get used to with the action of SP series .

On another note , SR30 is heavy metal and you may do better with lighter reels and yours is a low geared one too , may have to reel a bit faster to retrieve line after each stroke , this also can contribute to your tiredness after 3 hr. of casting n popping .

Jon .