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Title: maxel?
Post by: Jamie Moir on July 10, 2010, 10:12:06 PM
Yes price XE this reel made by MAXEL Jigging Master assemble themselves and brand.
Same reel with  MAXEL brand will be will be around $450 Au as of August in Australia and include 5 year warranty.

I thought the JM reels were supposed to be made in Taiwan? Are you saying that the JM reels are machined in China, then assembled in Taiwan?

Edit: actually I notice this page (http://www.australianangling.com.au/sea_lion_series_big_game_jigging.htm) they are the reels you're importing?

The OSL10 looks like the JM PE7, but only busts enough drag for 65lb? Mores the pity, it otherwise looks good  for sambo season.
Title: Re: maxel?
Post by: AustralianAngling on July 11, 2010, 10:19:04 AM
Yes MAXEL machine all the parts for Jigging master and some other brands.
Title: Re: maxel?
Post by: Jamie Moir on July 11, 2010, 10:57:41 AM
Played with any samples yet?

Any idea what happened to the drag? The JM PE7 has a "efficient: 45lb, max: 80lb" and that reel is only making 22lb?
Title: Re: maxel?
Post by: AustralianAngling on July 11, 2010, 03:14:22 PM
Have several reels and all models on way for Australian trade show. Just finished 3 weeks in Papau New Guinea with reels.
Really can not see point of 80lb or 36kg of drag I only use 18kg to 20kg of drag in the chair for 1000lb marlin and I rarely see an angler who can fish more than 20kg for any length of time.
I have the SM10 which states it has a max of 10kg was setting this reel to 15kg in PNG and it had plenty more available.
Title: Re: maxel?
Post by: Jamie Moir on July 11, 2010, 03:23:34 PM
I've always considered the amount of drag available on JM reels to be a little ridiculous and therefore irrelevant.  Surely you would agree that you need at least 1/3 - 1/2 of the line rating though? So for PE8, you're looking at at least 12kg.

Good to hear the drag is a little better in the two speed, 33lb is a bit closer to the mark!

Title: Re: maxel?
Post by: Andrew Cox on July 11, 2010, 08:21:09 PM
Played with any samples yet?

Any idea what happened to the drag? The JM PE7 has a "efficient: 45lb, max: 80lb" and that reel is only making 22lb?

Where did this info come from have you tested one ? I sure know my JM PE8 can pull far more than that.
Title: Re: maxel?
Post by: Jamie Moir on July 11, 2010, 08:29:28 PM
Where did this info come from have you tested one ? I sure know my JM PE8 can pull far more than that.

We're discussing the offered spec, after all, they aren't shipping yet. Anyhow, that is what jigging master themselves offer; click (http://www.jiggingmaster-ag.com/view_product_d.asp?id=103)

Its kind of irrelevant if your reel can pull more than 80lb in any case. As also noted, not much point in a reel offering stacks more drag than you could use with the intended line for it, ie; an 80lb reel doesn't need to be able to do 80lb of drag, that isn't how they're rated.
Title: Re: maxel?
Post by: Andrew Cox on July 11, 2010, 08:41:30 PM
Where did this info come from have you tested one ? I sure know my JM PE8 can pull far more than that.

We're discussing the offered spec, after all, they aren't shipping yet. Anyhow, that is what jigging master themselves offer; [img=http://www.jiggingmaster-ag.com/view_product_d.asp?id=103]http://click[/img]

Its kind of irrelevant if your reel can pull more than 80lb in any case. As also noted, not much point in a reel offering stacks more drag than you could use with the intended line for it, ie; an 80lb reel doesn't need to be able to do 80lb of drag, that isn't how they're rated.

Sorry mate it looks to me like you are saying that a JM PE7 is only making 22lb of drag ? That link goes no where for me.
Of course 80lb is way more than needed but I do no guys that fight BFT on 30kg of drag from there stella's, not sure how you would hang on for that long on that much drag but they do it.
Title: Re: maxel?
Post by: Jamie Moir on July 11, 2010, 09:04:30 PM
Link fixed, the forum misinterpreted it or something.

No, I'm asking why the maxel copy of the JM PE7 reel can only manage 22lb of drag when the JM can manage 45lb effective  to a totally ridiculous  80lb max.
Title: Re: maxel?
Post by: Chris Wong on September 28, 2010, 08:36:18 PM
Because JM have installed twin drags.  Maxel have a different twin drag design which does not come close to that of JM. 

Jamie, you drive a car right?  Your car can probably go twice as fast as the speed limit - but you don't drive that fast for several obvious reasons.   Why do guys love their V8's?  Porsches?  Ferraris?  All fast cars that are only limited to 110kmph!

Similar reason why JM have developed a super drag system, you don't have to dial it up to the max!  PERFORMANCE. 
Title: Re: maxel?
Post by: AustralianAngling on November 04, 2010, 02:18:19 PM
If you note that the ratings provided by MAXEL give max drag while still allowing free spool.
MAXEL reel will produce much more drag but you will not have a true free spool.

Title: Re: maxel?
Post by: Jamie Moir on November 04, 2010, 03:02:43 PM
Sorry steve, but whats the point? No freespool, your jigs won't drop.

The OSL8 for example, can handle 8.5kg, so its really pushing it to be a PE5 reel, more like a PE4 one, but then its the same size as a PE6 reel. When you see things like that, you really get the impressopm just a little bit more homework and they would have a good product.
Title: Re: maxel?
Post by: AustralianAngling on November 04, 2010, 03:42:11 PM
MAXEL SL10 standard has a max drag with freespool of 10kg for $385 for another $40 upgrade to HT100 and we got 16KG.

Jigging master PE6 which is same size has 14kg max with freespool cost $699.00
Title: Re: maxel?
Post by: Chris Leong on November 05, 2010, 02:18:18 AM
Steve,

Just a note. What about the after sales service for the reels. Availability of spares parts for servicing is of great importance to alot of users i presume.
Title: Re: maxel?
Post by: AustralianAngling on November 05, 2010, 08:23:55 AM
Have reel tech locally and have large quantity of spares already in Australia.
We have pulled down most models and inspected for quality.
Have put reels through some rigorous testing here and in Papua New Guinea.

MAXEL offers a limited 5 year warranty

Title: Re: maxel?
Post by: Jamie Moir on November 05, 2010, 09:51:45 AM
MAXEL SL10 standard has a max drag with freespool of 10kg for $385 for another $40 upgrade to HT100 and we got 16KG.

Makes you wonder why they don't just ship them with decent drags themselves? I hear even daiwa is doing that now with the new saltigas.
Title: Re: maxel?
Post by: AustralianAngling on November 05, 2010, 11:28:07 AM
They will in future. We have advised of a couple of upgrades we want to make them even better.
Price will also slightly increase though as well but only a little.

Upgrade was done here in Australia to the HT100 drag material.
Title: Re: maxel?
Post by: Jeffry Chai on March 09, 2011, 12:57:00 PM
MAXEL SL10 standard has a max drag with freespool of 10kg for $385 for another $40 upgrade to HT100 and we got 16KG.

Jigging master PE6 which is same size has 14kg max with freespool cost $699.00
Its like you comparing Mercedes Benz and Honda.
Title: Re: maxel?
Post by: Ben Furness on March 09, 2011, 01:44:49 PM
Its like you comparing Mercedes Benz and Honda.
Probably more like comparing a BMW 3 series to an M3!
Title: Re: maxel?
Post by: Brock Arifovic on March 11, 2011, 07:48:03 AM
It's taken daiwa way to long for that to happen! I personally drags should be checked before every use especially if it's a new reel. Just because you pay good money for a reel we should all not assume that it has been done right.
Title: Re: maxel?
Post by: AustralianAngling on March 24, 2011, 06:08:53 PM
MAXEL SL10 standard has a max drag with freespool of 10kg for $385 for another $40 upgrade to HT100 and we got 16KG.

Jigging master PE6 which is same size has 14kg max with freespool cost $699.00
Its like you comparing Mercedes Benz and Honda.

Both reels parts come form MAXEL so very little difference.
You are just paying Jigging Master for the name on the side.