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General => General Topwater & Jigging Discussion => Topic started by: Brad.Bell on May 15, 2009, 02:14:57 PM
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I am grabbing the ripplefisher RP78XH, also curious on anyones thoughts
cheers
Brad
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I've not used the 78XH, but have tried a couple of the others namely GTFlex and 79H and really like them. One of the nomad guides said the 78XH was his pick of the RF bunch for casting and power. I think you will find it a touch softer in the tip than say a carpenter eqivalent SP78EXH, this comment based on only holding and flexing the rod though.
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Dear Brad,
I am not sure why you classified the SP 78EXH as a PE12 rod, I think it is better rated as a PE8.
I have had a casting session with the Ripple Fisher 78H recently. These are some of the charateristics I personally felt.
78H Ripple Fisher is a forgiving GT rod. Its forgiving to cast and easy on the angler when engaged with a fish. The rod has a fairly soft tip but a gradual backbone locking in quite close to the stripper guide.
Casting with poppers between 140-170g seems to be ideal, the rod launches with a whip rather than a punch. When casting, the load is absorbed throughout the blank and whips out. For comparison purposes, the Carpenter rods when casting, picks up the weight at the loading point and punches the popper out. Such a characteristic on the Ripple would mean it is easy to cast with but may not be optimum in terms of casting distance (if we are picky) , and the distance and accuracy may drop further if in windy conditions.
Fish fighting wise, with the soft tip and a low locking point, it could be the next good thing for the angler's back after the Osim back massager. But it would mean that fish stopping prowess would be compromised.
Popper working is ideal with chuggers around the 150g mark. Have tried blopping the 170g GT3 with it and it was not so energy efficient.
These are just my personal opinion, let's agree to disagree if it differs from anyone's okie?
Still waiting for a chance to try the XH model.
Regards,
Ah Gu
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Brad,
I have the KD and the EXH, and have used the XH fairly extensively. They are quite different rods.
For popping the SP78EXH is far better, with great popping power and can punch out a lure into the wind, but when fighting a fish, its another story. It can be quite unforgiving.
The KD is a great all round rod, cast OK, but is excellent fighting rod. I'd think it would max out way before the other 2.
The RF78XH is kind of like a big KD, it casts a better, has a hell of a lot more grunt than the KD.
So for a single all round GT rod, its pretty good. I will probably pick one up later this year. But for a single minded popping rod, the SP-EXH and UHL still rule in IMHO.
Hope this helps
George
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thanks George, i have the RP78PF as my PE8 GT rod, just getting advice on the EH for NEw Cal in Jan
not sure weather it could handle the G and I cups
any advice?
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I have had a casting session with the Ripple Fisher 78H recently. These are some of the charateristics I personally felt.
78H Ripple Fisher is a forgiving GT rod. Its forgiving to cast and easy on the angler when engaged with a fish. The rod has a fairly soft tip but a gradual backbone locking in quite close to the stripper guide.
Casting with poppers between 140-170g seems to be ideal, the rod launches with a whip rather than a punch. When casting, the load is absorbed throughout the blank and whips out. For comparison purposes, the Carpenter rods when casting, picks up the weight at the loading point and punches the popper out. Such a characteristic on the Ripple would mean it is easy to cast with but may not be optimum in terms of casting distance (if we are picky) , and the distance and accuracy may drop further if in windy conditions.
Fish fighting wise, with the soft tip and a low locking point, it could be the next good thing for the angler's back after the Osim back massager. But it would mean that fish stopping prowess would be compromised.
Popper working is ideal with chuggers around the 150g mark. Have tried blopping the 170g GT3 with it and it was not so energy efficient.
These are just my personal opinion, let's agree to disagree if it differs from anyone's okie?
Still waiting for a chance to try the XH model.
Regards,
Ah Gu
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Thanks Ah i was actually talking about getting the XH not the H
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So for a single all round GT rod, its pretty good. I will probably pick one up later this year. But for a single minded popping rod, the SP-EXH and UHL still rule in IMHO.
Hope this helps
George
George, agreed, the SP78EXH kicks Ass as 170gm popper, kicks my ass too.
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I have had a casting session with the Ripple Fisher 78H recently. These are some of the charateristics I personally felt.
78H Ripple Fisher is a forgiving GT rod. Its forgiving to cast and easy on the angler when engaged with a fish. The rod has a fairly soft tip but a gradual backbone locking in quite close to the stripper guide.
Casting with poppers between 140-170g seems to be ideal, the rod launches with a whip rather than a punch. When casting, the load is absorbed throughout the blank and whips out. For comparison purposes, the Carpenter rods when casting, picks up the weight at the loading point and punches the popper out. Such a characteristic on the Ripple would mean it is easy to cast with but may not be optimum in terms of casting distance (if we are picky) , and the distance and accuracy may drop further if in windy conditions.
Fish fighting wise, with the soft tip and a low locking point, it could be the next good thing for the angler's back after the Osim back massager. But it would mean that fish stopping prowess would be compromised.
Popper working is ideal with chuggers around the 150g mark. Have tried blopping the 170g GT3 with it and it was not so energy efficient.
These are just my personal opinion, let's agree to disagree if it differs from anyone's okie?
Still waiting for a chance to try the XH model.
Regards,
Ah Gu
Thanks Ah i was actually talking about getting the XH not the H
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Ah.... old man here with bad eye sight... :-[ apology guys...
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It would be the carpenter for me but I'd rather the UHL if I was using PE12. Availability is the main issue, you probably won't be able to get a SP carpenter for some time.
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Anyone fished with the GT79H which is a PE12 rod ???
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Anyone fished with the GT79H which is a PE12 rod ???
Nathan, I did some casting with it on nomad last week and it casts well and works 150 gm poppers ok, I did not hook-up on anything too large though. It has a softer tip but I'm sure plenty of power lower down. For me it sort of blurs the line between popper and stick baiter which is ok if you want to use smaller cups and medium to larger stickbaits on the one rod. Personally i like one designed for each. But if you wanted a solid PE10 rod for both this would suffice.
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the rods have changed quite a bit from prototype to production. The 78H prototype I was playing with last year at Bugatti not only scared me, I think it scarred me permanently :D I had one of my UHLs on the trip and the UHL felt like a Blue Lagoon next to it. :o I was really hoping I wouldn't hook a fish with it but unfortunately for me, I did and it was pretty big. I suppose the best way I can describe the battle is that particular GT caught itself a Chinaman, and not a very big one at that :'(
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are you saying you liked the 78H brandon??
Has anyone here tried the new 78 XH, more interested in a response on that. I have a lot of comments regarding the 78H but i am actually after the 78 XH
cheers
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Very few people would have had the opportunity to fish the 79XH up to date. I know George has because I was there but realistically, when you see when this was released, I doubt more than a small handful of people would have fished it. Also, seems to be some confusion between the 78s and 79s. 78s are superseded, I think
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There are two models to Ripple Fisher's "Final Spirit" series: the 78XH and 79H. See: http://www.ripplefisher.com/original/hayami/finalspirit_gt78xh-79h.htm (http://www.ripplefisher.com/original/hayami/finalspirit_gt78xh-79h.htm)
I have loaded up both RFs along with the Carpenter UHL and EXH. I'm tempted to say the 78XH is something akin to the UHL? Of course, loading it in a shop and actually fishing with it are two different things, but I thought I'd voice my thoughts since there has been little feedback for such new products. I was very close to buying the 79H due to how forgiving it was.
Really, if you want a PE12 rod though, you should be comparing the RF 78XH with the Carpenter UHL.
I have fished a fair bit with the Komodo, and personally I would not say that its a PE12 rod. I was very close to buying one of these rods too, and it landed a 50kg GT for me at NewCal. Early on though, Brandon said it was not for me and after a while I understood why - you do waste alot of energy chugging G-cups, let alone I-cups, due to its relatively soft tip. Those 2 hammerheads are absolutely deadly at NC, and knowing what you already have Brad, I would strike the KD from the list.
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gday kasey thanks for your feedback mate appreciate it
hey are you still goig to be in perth this week or are you off??
i will be down there on thursday night if you want to catch up before you go, ill shout you tea if you can get to the city
cheers
brad
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hi brad
earlier this year i was lucky enough to have a bit of a play with RF78xh
i found it was the strongest rod in there range by a long way, it is quite light
to use and could cast it all day without needing a chiro. only loaded up on a fish
for a brief moment but it felt pretty good.
i was only casting 150 cuberas and i think that would be the minimum you would want to
use with this rod
hope this helps brad
cheers john
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It does John thanks
is good to hear from someone who has used it, cheers mainly for G and I cups 150HP's would probably be the smallest lure i would be using on this rod
thanks
Brad
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glad to help i only got to use it when the other guys put it down for a second, it was a
popular rod !
only needed to twitch it like a barra lure to pop the cubera so G & I cups should be perfect
cheers john
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sweet
its locked in got one on order