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Title: 6500 saltiga spool capacity
Post by: Rohit Saqa Lal on October 15, 2009, 07:13:44 AM
Hi fellas
I am trying to work out what to run on on a reel I am shortly getting. I am looking at running a PE10 diameter or at least 100lb line rating. For those that have loaded these spools with such lines, I would appreciate finding out what loads you are getting with which lines

Lines I am considering are

PE10 avani tuna
PE10 avani gt
100lb jerry brown
100lb jerry brown hollow
100lb tuffline xp
PE10 sunline jigger8

Any others you can recomend?

Thanks in advance
Title: Re: 6500 saltiga spool capacity
Post by: Brandon Khoo on October 15, 2009, 07:30:17 AM
You'll get roughly 230 to 250m of PE10 onto a 6500 spool. 100lb JB and TF XP is a little finer than PE10. You'd be looking at 260 to 280m roughly.

If you manage to pack your spools really, really tight, you'll get a bit more on but I've never been able to get on what some other people have claimed.
Title: Re: 6500 saltiga spool capacity
Post by: Rohit Saqa Lal on October 15, 2009, 08:45:19 AM
Thanks Brandon, thats the kind of figures I have been able to glean trawling through various threads here and there. What would be your recomendation out of all the choices
Title: Re: 6500 saltiga spool capacity
Post by: Brandon Khoo on October 15, 2009, 01:01:37 PM
Rohit, depends on how big your wallet is!   :D

I do like Varivas GT myself but I find the Jerry Brown solid spectra in the 100lb to be excellent, particularly at the price.
Title: Re: 6500 saltiga spool capacity
Post by: Rohit Saqa Lal on October 15, 2009, 01:08:03 PM
Hi mate, wallet is very light now I am surviving on my craft. The jerry brown and tuffline xp are pretty much on my short list. I previously bought some 100lb sufix for the shperos but It breaks at 20kg max, supposed to be 44kg so a bit shy now. The stupid suffix cost $200 for 600 yard spool and is thick as cord! Got burnt there

Who stocks the jerry brown?
Title: Re: 6500 saltiga spool capacity
Post by: Jay Burgess on October 16, 2009, 01:01:32 AM

Who stocks the jerry brown?

Nomad Sportfishing.

http://www.nomadtackle.ashop.com.au/c/250641/1/jerry-brown.html (http://www.nomadtackle.ashop.com.au/c/250641/1/jerry-brown.html)
Title: Re: 6500 saltiga spool capacity
Post by: Rohit Saqa Lal on October 16, 2009, 02:26:45 AM
You had to put the link up and I had to browes thier catalogue and see the damn red JM fighting belt  :o  ;D

The line looks good value at that price for 600y and they sell line grippers too. The shopping list is not gunna get any shorter ina hurry is it  ::)
Title: Re: 6500 saltiga spool capacity
Post by: Gareth Branicki on October 23, 2009, 07:49:29 PM
Rohit i have the 6500 dogfight and use tuf line for some reason 50 lb tuf line is quite thin 65 pounds the diameter goes up bigtime quite a shock  i reckon i can get about 350 yards of the 65 havent messured it could be less or slightly more reckon less  though as have 1200m spool  but  100lb  maybe 250  cheers
Title: Re: 6500 saltiga spool capacity
Post by: Andy Rowe on October 24, 2009, 04:47:41 PM
Rohit, depends on how big your wallet is!   :D

I do like Varivas GT myself but I find the Jerry Brown solid spectra in the 100lb to be excellent, particularly at the price.

After hearing good things about Jerry Brown and seeing the very affordable price I decided I'd pick up a spool of the 100lb solid spectra and compare it with the Varivas I usually use. The JB arrived in the correct poundage but I see it is the hollow version, the shop where I bought it is temporarily closed and I won't be open again before my GT trip in Mid Nov.

My question; Is the hollow braid as good as the solid?? I don't want to splice, just the usual friction and bimini's. Should I risk using this on a precious GT trip?? or should I keep it in the draw and use varivas??

Thanks
Andy
Title: Re: 6500 saltiga spool capacity
Post by: Brandon Khoo on October 29, 2009, 09:11:27 PM
Andy, others may disagree but I see the hollow as different from the solid. If you buy a hollow line, you buy it primarily for the ability to splice the line. I do not know anyone who buys the hollow line in order to tie friction knots or bimimis. You can definitely tie bimimis and friction knots with hollow line though.

If anyone does, please provide some feedback for Andy.
Title: Re: 6500 saltiga spool capacity
Post by: Andy Rowe on October 29, 2009, 10:32:39 PM
Thanks for your reply Brandon, the main question now is...is the hollow, which came by mistake, as durable/tuff as the Solid?



Title: Re: 6500 saltiga spool capacity
Post by: Doug Mcleod1 on October 29, 2009, 10:42:27 PM
Hi Guys
I have been using Jerry Brown now for about 3 years and have found the main difference between the hollow vs the solid is , the hollow apart from being splicable ( which is handy for topping up a low spool) is it is quite a bit finer in the weave compared to the solid line , which in theory will give you a slight advantage when casting and it is certainly a bit quieter over the guides under load . For me I use the hollow , it costs a bit more , but you save time and money on re spooling by splicing in a new section when needed  , which is very handy when you are away for 7 to 10 days on a trip and get reefed a couple of times . I do tend to knot the leader connection rather than splice. I use either a Bimini connection or the FG knot and have found them no different to tie in either the hollow or the solid.
Title: Re: 6500 saltiga spool capacity
Post by: Andy Rowe on October 29, 2009, 11:09:47 PM
Hi Guys
I have been using Jerry Brown now for about 3 years and have found the main difference between the hollow vs the solid is , the hollow apart from being splicable ( which is handy for topping up a low spool) is it is quite a bit finer in the weave compared to the solid line , which in theory will give you a slight advantage when casting and it is certainly a bit quieter over the guides under load . For me I use the hollow , it costs a bit more , but you save time and money on re spooling by splicing in a new section when needed  , which is very handy when you are away for 7 to 10 days on a trip and get reefed a couple of times . I do tend to knot the leader connection rather than splice. I use either a Bimini connection or the FG knot and have found them no different to tie in either the hollow or the solid.

Hi Doug,

Thanks for your insights, that's a good economical concept, topping up your spool by splicing.

Pardon my ignorance, but I guess you could splice top shots of solid braid into that base of hollow right??
Title: Re: 6500 saltiga spool capacity
Post by: Doug Mcleod1 on October 30, 2009, 06:11:12 PM
Hi Andy
I believe it is possible to splice solid into hollow , but it's something I have not really experimented with at this stage. Hollow to hollow is quite simple to do using a loop needle or a piece of around 100lb single strand wire if you don't have a needle. Sorry I cant help you with the solid to hollow at this stage ,but you have made me curious as to the best way to join the two , maybe it's time for me to do a bit more experimenting!!
As for the durability of the two , i think you will find that both solid & hollow are quite durable/tuff , with the hollow having a slight edge over the solid. I have no scientific data to prove or disprove this , it's just my observations over the time I have been using Jerry Brown.
Title: Re: 6500 saltiga spool capacity
Post by: Dave Foyle on October 30, 2009, 08:13:20 PM
Hi Guys,

I've used hollowcore on my last 4 trips with decent results in 100lb and 130lb.  Seems very reliable stuff.

Andy - why not try a splice?  Its pretty quick to do and you get a 100% connection - you've ended up with hollowcore so why not give it a try - nothing to lose!

Tight lines   Dave

Title: Re: 6500 saltiga spool capacity
Post by: Gus Connor on October 30, 2009, 08:45:32 PM
hi all

sorry this is off topic fron the original thread but on the subject of splicing on the Safa channel the other night they were jigging using solid core and simply got a sewing needle and went back up the main line at a 45 degree angle at 3mm increments for about 20cm to make a loop in the braid.  and that was it.  Has anyone tried this before?  Is it too simple to be true?  I did it quickly for fun and I couldnt pull the loop undone.
Interested in your thoughts.
Gus
Title: Re: 6500 saltiga spool capacity
Post by: Rohit Saqa Lal on October 30, 2009, 09:43:16 PM
hi all

sorry this is off topic fron the original thread but on the subject of splicing on the Safa channel the other night they were jigging using solid core and simply got a sewing needle and went back up the main line at a 45 degree angle at 3mm increments for about 20cm to make a loop in the braid.  and that was it.  Has anyone tried this before?  Is it too simple to be true?  I did it quickly for fun and I couldnt pull the loop undone.
Interested in your thoughts.
Gus

You have just given me a very evil idea. Let me play with it a bit and I'll report back here
Title: Re: 6500 saltiga spool capacity
Post by: Andy Rowe on October 31, 2009, 12:50:31 PM
Interesting concepts...

Dave, Doug, looks like people are happy with strength and durability of the hollow.

I'll wind it on to an 18K spool and give it good work out, if I'm happy with it I'll start playing with splicing.

Cheers
A
Title: Re: 6500 saltiga spool capacity
Post by: Rohit Saqa Lal on November 04, 2009, 07:27:14 PM
I have been playing with the lil idea I had and here is the report

I dont have any hollow braid on hand but I have 80lb dacron and I used that. The results are encouraging enough for me to load the maverick with 100lb JB hollow for quick and simple leader attachments

Idea first, what I did was instead of inserting the leader from the open end, I first tied hollow to leader about 10 inches up from the leaders tag end with a 7 turn uni the same way one ties the briad to the leader on the double uni knot. Then I poked a hole in the hollow tube next to the uni and grabed the tag end of the leader and inserted it all the way in. Holds extremely well and very quick and easy to do and doesnt require whipping or binding the open end with floss or similar

I am putting as much pressure as I can on it and cant get it to budge. I have maked the leader with permemnet marker just to see if there is any slip

Title: Re: 6500 saltiga spool capacity
Post by: Chris Young on November 04, 2009, 08:10:26 PM
That sounds like a great connection Rohit. I would use a thin smear of UV glue on the tag end inside the hollow braid to finish it off  ;)
I love new ideas ;D
Title: Re: 6500 saltiga spool capacity
Post by: Ken Best on November 04, 2009, 09:00:32 PM
A little off topic, but do any of you have 130lb Tufline and 130lb JB hollow
to do a diameter comparison? I am expecting the JB to be smaller.
Title: Re: 6500 saltiga spool capacity
Post by: Andreas Lesch on November 12, 2009, 02:36:05 AM
Hello is new here and wanted sometimes inquiries which string to her can recommend me. The role is a Daiwa doogfight rod a Ripple fisher Gt82 LC .Hatte to me the Varivas Avani GT SMP or Varivas Avani GT 90 LB select does not know only the difference .Soori for my English is not so great.
Greeting Andrea
P.S fish I act on the Andamanen
Title: Re: 6500 saltiga spool capacity
Post by: Brandon Khoo on November 12, 2009, 01:15:05 PM
Andreas, what you propose looks like a reasonably balanced outfit but as to its suitability, that is hard to say without knowing more of the location, size of fish, terrain etc.
Title: Re: 6500 saltiga spool capacity
Post by: Dave Foyle on November 14, 2009, 09:40:52 PM
Hi Ken,

130lb JB hollow is a fair bit slimmer than 130lb Tufline XP.  The 130lb Tufline guides choice hollow seems to be the same size as 130lb JB hollow i.e. slimmer than 130lb xp......

I'm not sure if it is really practical to use the 130lb XP as a casting line - I think the sacrifice in casting distance would be too big.

Tight lines   Dave