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General => General Topwater & Jigging Discussion => Topic started by: Anthony Dillon on October 16, 2010, 03:53:24 PM
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Dear All,
I am looking for a heavy popping rod and have been suggested the 78XH. Supplier is strongly recommending the 79H. Can anyone give me any advice on these two ?. I am looking for a stiff rod for heavy chuggers for GT's. appreciate any feedback
Thanks
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The supplier is strongly recommending the 79H from personal experience!! ;D I'm in his boat as I fished the prototype of this stick 2.5 years ago and a decent fish broke me in half. :'(
The 78XH is an absolute beast. if you want to get this rod, make sure you're physically capable of handling it - and that you actually need it. Is this rod intended to be a specialised stick for monster chuggers? If not why do you want this rod? Quite frankly, most people who have bought the 78XH can't handle them.
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Brandon, I want to see more "L Shaped" pictures ;), how is this going to happen if you keep discouraging newbs ???.
Anthony, if you get the 78XH you will also need some of my King Kongs 8)
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not of me you won't! The person we want to get one of these is Kai.
More seriously, the King Kong is the type of popper this rod was made to work.
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Hi Anthony,
I have cast the 79H not the 78XH, but believe the 79H to be relatively softer in the tip than the XH, perhaps bending a little more as elucidated by Brandon. Based on a very clear description of what you are after and having had the pleasure of meeting you I would say you may be one of the few that can use this rod effectively, I don't think I could :P.
I'm sure it will be fun trying
Andy
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it won't be fun 15 minutes into a fight on 15kg drag!!
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I have owned and fished both rods....I no longer own the 78XH....way too much rod for me and just unnecessary, even with my penchant for heavy-ish lures....I caught a high 30's fish on the 78XH on the first day of a trip to Fiji earlier in the year...glad it was day 1 not day 6 or I may not have landed it! When people said it was an angler friendly heavy popper rod they definately meant comparitavely, ie, it is still a heavy popper rod...it has a very stiff tip, great for working chuggers, brutal to put a comfortable bend in when fighting fish
The 79H casts and works poppers like the King Kong, G-Cup and Craftbait GT3 ultra bigmouth just fine....so I figure why have the extra pain when fighting a fish
That being said, if you have the back and arm muscles for it, do it!
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Anthony, if you are a strong bloke and want to use BIG chuggers like King Kong , Big 200, I cup GT3 ultra etc I say go for it, 78XH is IMHO the best thing out there for working these things, it simply pops the $hit out of em with ease. 79H will not work them in the same way, the tip will fold a lot more when trying to get that big cup ripping into the water and will be more hard work than 78XH (while working poppers)
Scott, I doubt that 79H would be able to work King Kong, the cup is a fair bit bigger than Big 200 which is incidentally the same size as HHead I cup. As far as I'm aware only Luke and Brandon are game to fish with King Kong, in Brandons case only for short amounts of time as he's a bit of a woos when it comes to big lures :P :o
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Krusty, I'm pretty sure Gordon would be able to use them as well.
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Brock, I reckon Lowy could pop a bucket if it had a strong enough handle on it ;D
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lol, the truth hurts - but so does the King Kong!! ;D ;D
I have to leave it to the young bloke Luke to pop those things all day. I use a Fisherman 77 R10 for the King Kong. It handles them well.
Scott, I doubt that 79H would be able to work King Kong, the cup is a fair bit bigger than Big 200 which is incidentally the same size as HHead I cup. As far as I'm aware only Luke and Brandon are game to fish with King Kong, in Brandons case only for short amounts of time as he's a bit of a woos when it comes to big lures :P :o
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Sorry chris you are right I was totally thinking Big Kong...I don't go bigger than g cup on my 79h
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he'd be able to pop that garua Kong you made me for Elusive!!
Brock, I reckon Lowy could pop a bucket if it had a strong enough handle on it ;D
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Ah yes, the Garua Kong, how could I forget that monster, how big was the cup again? I think it weighed about 450-500g too :o :o :o :o
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comparison
Garua Kong, King Kong, Kong
(http://s1.postimage.org/Cacdr.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/25hldbkw4/)
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Have you given it a swim yet??
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not till Kenji makes a rod that won't break when I try to cast that monstrosity!! ;D
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I am scared even looking at those.
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comparison
Garua Kong, King Kong, Kong
(http://s1.postimage.org/Cacdr.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/25hldbkw4/)
That garrua kong would make a great trolling popper :o
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And ye though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I fear no evil, except for the Garua Kong :o
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On the float plane, Kai actually said to me that the Garua Kong is still too small for him to consider using in NC! The way he fishes with his GT whispering technique down pat, he'd only need to make a massive 1 cast a day and still get a monster class fish everyday! ::) ;D ;D
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this is an absolute classic!! ;D
And ye though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I fear no evil, except for the Garua Kong :o
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Gaura Kong........Hell yeah baby!
Maybe I need to take one to my neurosugeon's visit in November to show the kind of lures we like to fish.
And to get a measurment in nanoseconds for the next colapse of my back from popping a lure that size.........I HATE having a bad back! It reminds me of the things I am missing out on!
Bring on the old days when I could chug a 230 HP tail or Bill Bug 200 for 6 hours straight :(
Scott,
Loved the quote too :)
Instant classic!
Brandon,
Who is this Kai chap???
I like the fact that he feels bigger lures are needed!
Crusty,
You should make a Bucket Kong for Gordon. He'd fish it since he is in a class all his own when moving large objects!
Aaron.
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Sorry to have hijacked the original post.
My impressions of the GT78XH is if you have bent up Patriot Design Black Mafia's, Carpenter SP78UHL's and STILL feel that you are not working the largest of the poppers in your collection efficiently, then have a good look at the GT78HX.......it will work the biggest production poppers around BUT it WILL not feel good on the angler after a protracted fight on heavy drag.
It needs heavy drag just to bend it!
DO you have access to bending the rods or casting the rods at all??
That would be mandatory I feel, just to get an idea of what kind of a mega stick it is, that's all.
Aaron.
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Guys,
many thanks for all the replies and advice. Gonna give it a try and decide but the picture is loud and clear. In response to one of the earlier replies I am 6'4" and slide in at a slim 140 kg's so the weight in the corner opposite the next Sumba GT one might say is even. Looking forward to a response from Pak John Hambali or Kai if they are back from Rompin yet ??
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about the only response you will get from Pak Jon on this will be to recommend a Carpenter!
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Anthony - I've got a Custom Metallic Blue brand new 78XH for sale if you need one mate.... The shiny blue will match your beloved Stella 10000FA's.... Rod is brand new mate, never fished, still got the plastic shrink on the grips...
Let me know if you keen bru..
Andre
andre(at)steel(dot)co(dot)za
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Guys,
many thanks for all the replies and advice. Gonna give it a try and decide but the picture is loud and clear. In response to one of the earlier replies I am 6'4" and slide in at a slim 140 kg's so the weight in the corner opposite the next Sumba GT one might say is even. Looking forward to a response from Pak John Hambali or Kai if they are back from Rompin yet ??
Hi Bigman ,
I n Ky are in JKT , Rompin was not as good as last year due to way too many ikan bilis in the area , our lures were a pale comparison to the real thing but we still managed a total of 8 sailfishes by lures between the 8 of us , we even managed a baby black marlin around 30 kg by livebait , all were released except a lone tenggiri which Takai-san made sashimi in the evening along with some squids too . Photos are still in Ky's computer , will bring my hard disk to his hotel and download the images n videos . The Harrisons managed to bring some sailfish by lures too , so it's all quite fun despite the sailfish aren't too aggresive . We will return next year !
Regarding the rod , we are all Carpenter fans so you can't expect any of us have something to say about Ripple Fisher rod , sorry buddy .
Jon .
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I have just purchased a Ripple GT 78XH after owning a GT 78 flex and loving it. But I feel quite scared now all 64kgs of me. Sounds like this Fiji trip in November is gonna hurt bad.
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Sabotage me especially when i seldom check-in to the forum :P
On the float plane, Kai actually said to me that the Garua Kong is still too small for him to consider using in NC! The way he fishes with his GT whispering technique down pat, he'd only need to make a massive 1 cast a day and still get a monster class fish everyday! ::) ;D ;D
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you should be right with any normal sized fish of say between 20-30kg but beyond this, well, I think you're right. If you hook a 40kg + fish on this rod, then be afraid - it's going to hurt. If I was you, I'd think 10-12kg of drag and no more than that.
I have just purchased a Ripple GT 78XH after owning a GT 78 flex and loving it. But I feel quite scared now all 64kgs of me. Sounds like this Fiji trip in November is gonna hurt bad.
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it's ok - I can organise your poppers for you for Bugatti next year iof you like? ;)
Sabotage me especially when i seldom check-in to the forum :P
On the float plane, Kai actually said to me that the Garua Kong is still too small for him to consider using in NC! The way he fishes with his GT whispering technique down pat, he'd only need to make a massive 1 cast a day and still get a monster class fish everyday! ::) ;D ;D
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I am a happy man with 5 gamma & 5 seafrogs :) Thanks in advance Brandon... LOL.
injured my shoulder since Elusive trip.
it's ok - I can organise your poppers for you for Bugatti next year iof you like? ;)
Sabotage me especially when i seldom check-in to the forum :P
On the float plane, Kai actually said to me that the Garua Kong is still too small for him to consider using in NC! The way he fishes with his GT whispering technique down pat, he'd only need to make a massive 1 cast a day and still get a monster class fish everyday! ::) ;D ;D
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Was it from fishing too hard?
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It was from going L shaped
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L shaped Again??????? :o :o ::)
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Just Kai!