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Title: GT Care - Cool :)
Post by: Luke Wyrsta on December 08, 2010, 12:55:02 PM
Captain Fukui is fishing in Alor as we speak.

Meanwhile, check this cool contraption being used on the Big Dipper... I will ask him more about this in email or when I visit Tokara next year.

Title: Re: GT Care - Cool :)
Post by: Mark Harris on December 08, 2010, 12:58:33 PM
Is he on the Kaiser boat Luke? Hope they are going well. Returns in Alor since October have been disappointing.

Adhek is out there right now with a Japanese group using the local boat MV Theodoras, and Ocean Dreams has a group as well.
Title: Re: GT Care - Cool :)
Post by: Luke Wyrsta on December 08, 2010, 01:00:21 PM
Is he on the Kaiser boat Luke? Hope they are going well. Returns in Alor since October have been disappointing.

Adhek is out there right now with a Japanese group using the local boat MV Theodoras, and Ocean Dreams has a group as well.

I actually didn't ask but will hear all about it when he gets back.
Title: Re: GT Care - Cool :)
Post by: Mark Harris on December 08, 2010, 01:02:46 PM
Will be interesting to hear. I was not over-pleased with my Alor trip in early November and since then it has got quieter, particularly for GTs.  The Doggies have been fun though it seems. Really hope it has livened up again.

That is indeed a very cool contraption and easy to set up I guess.
Title: Re: GT Care - Cool :)
Post by: Peter Childs on December 08, 2010, 01:47:40 PM
Wow, nice revival tank!  Looks like a recipe for a wet cockpit and everything else as well!

Imagine sticking a tuna in there?  It would be like an outboard testing tank.
Title: Re: GT Care - Cool :)
Post by: Sam Conacher on December 08, 2010, 01:52:09 PM
it's good to know that this is happening and the GT'S are being looked after,  i like the idea of the set-up to.
Title: Re: GT Care - Cool :)
Post by: Luke Wyrsta on December 08, 2010, 02:07:42 PM
The tank has a water-tight lid for transportation on boat and off.

Looks like it would work pretty good on Fukui's boat - there's a approx 10ft self draing back deck  ;D
Title: Re: GT Care - Cool :)
Post by: Mark Harris on December 12, 2010, 02:44:04 AM
Is he on the Kaiser boat Luke? Hope they are going well. Returns in Alor since October have been disappointing.

Adhek is out there right now with a Japanese group using the local boat MV Theodoras, and Ocean Dreams has a group as well.

I actually didn't ask but will hear all about it when he gets back.

Looks like Fukui and his party accompanied by Adhek did well in Alor.  Pics are up here:

http://adhek.net/asfeng/4_6dec2010.html (http://adhek.net/asfeng/4_6dec2010.html)
http://adhek.net/asfeng/7_8dec2010.html (http://adhek.net/asfeng/7_8dec2010.html)

I am personally disappointed to see GTs held up by the tail like that though  :o. I will ask Adhek about that but it seems strange with guys as experienced as he and Fukui on the boat.
Title: Re: GT Care - Cool :)
Post by: Kasey Leong on December 12, 2010, 03:40:27 AM
I'm still puzzled with the use of zip-locks around the tail!  ???
Title: Re: GT Care - Cool :)
Post by: Mark Harris on December 12, 2010, 11:58:31 AM
Yep me too Kasey and I will find out!

Looking at those GTs held up with one hand by the tail is equally bemusing, unless they were dead.
Title: Re: GT Care - Cool :)
Post by: Luke Wyrsta on December 12, 2010, 02:25:04 PM
Perhaps the ziplock was used so that the GT could be weighed via a hook - which I don't agree with BTW.
Title: Re: GT Care - Cool :)
Post by: Mark Harris on December 12, 2010, 02:30:22 PM
That's possible I guess. The boat they were on (MV Theodoras) is very basic indeed and it would surprise if they had a scale. Maybe though.

Also Luke, what's your take on holding up GTs one handed by the tail? Surely a recipe to break their back?
Title: Re: GT Care - Cool :)
Post by: Luke Wyrsta on December 12, 2010, 02:48:24 PM
That's possible I guess. The boat they were on (MV Theodoras) is very basic indeed and it would surprise if they had a scale. Maybe though.

Also Luke, what's your take on holding up GTs one handed by the tail? Surely a recipe to break their back?

It definitely is not good.

Even handling them with care, if you accidentally don't correctly support even the smallest of GT's...you can HEAR the damage being done. It's like vertibrae separating or 'popping'.
Title: Re: GT Care - Cool :)
Post by: Mark Harris on December 12, 2010, 03:39:02 PM
That's what I always thought.

I seem to remember there is a thread here somewhere about the correct way to hold a GT for picture.  If someone can locate that and pin it, it might be a good idea.
Title: Re: GT Care - Cool :)
Post by: Callan Wallace on December 13, 2010, 05:30:56 AM
Could the cable ties be fish tags. I found this
http://www.hallprint.com/self_locking_loop_tags.html (http://www.hallprint.com/self_locking_loop_tags.html)
I have a few people involved with tagging looking into cable tie fish tagging and any associated problems. I will post when I hear back from them.
Title: Re: GT Care - Cool :)
Post by: Mark Harris on December 13, 2010, 02:13:45 PM
This whole tagging thing in Indonesia got me thinking and I went back checking photos of fish I have caught locally here.

Nothing resembling a tag except on the very latest fish I caught on Saturday at Batu Abah, Bali. Idiot here did not notice at the time of course.

Callan or anyone else, does this look like a tag to you?  The loose end made me think it could just be a snag?  If someone is running a GT tagging program in Bali, I will find out and suggest it might be a decent idea (!) to tell all the local boatmen and GT anglers.

(http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac239/markinbali/GTwithtagLR.jpg)


Title: Re: GT Care - Cool :)
Post by: Callan Wallace on December 13, 2010, 06:28:59 PM
From what I understand about starting a tagging program the first thing to do is educate all of the fishing public that tagging is going to be done. That way if someone catches a tagged fish at least you can get some info. I have been told that this is no small feat. Posters, fliers and education are all part of the process. Here in Fiji that would mean going out to the surrounding villages and conducting seminars to try to spread the word and teach about tagging. All of this needs to be done before a single tag is put on a fish.  Mark if that is a tag then someone forgot the most important steps.
Title: Re: GT Care - Cool :)
Post by: Angus Hulme on December 15, 2010, 12:46:31 PM
Interesting concept, that revival tank. I have to say, though, that i can't really see the point in it. If an angler wants to revive a GT, why not just put it back over the side and revive it boat side as soon as possible after a couple of photos?

The only scenario I could think of that you wouldn't want to release the fish immediately was if there was a ravenous pack of massive sharks at the back of the boat. And even then, the sharks would probably follow the boat to wherever you wanted to release the fish?

Anyway, that's my take on it. 

Title: Re: GT Care - Cool :)
Post by: Mark Harris on December 15, 2010, 12:56:28 PM
That works fine in flat water Angus. It can be very difficult in lumpy water with a raging current though - i.e. the places I usually fish!
Title: Re: GT Care - Cool :)
Post by: Wiwied Soeparto on May 23, 2011, 11:52:17 AM
the cable tie is for tagging and got adhek's name on it, we scaled the fish using human scale with a self made board on top of it, so the GT was safely lied on top of the board.
Title: Re: GT Care - Cool :)
Post by: Trent on May 29, 2011, 11:57:47 AM
What a great idea. A revival tank would have to be better than a hose down the throat for survival rates