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Title: Ocean Revolution Black Devils BD200 rod
Post by: Dave Hoo on February 28, 2011, 06:55:36 PM
Hi all,

I am helping my friend in Qatar to check on what reel can he use to match the OR Black Devils BD200 rod.

The rod is rated at PE6 so most probably he will be using the Varivas PE6 line (83lbs) to pop for GTs and using Eltoros 125-150g and occasionally the craftbaits 150g.

Not too sure if this rod can handle the chugging of the craftbaits which have quite a big cup.

Reels under considerations are :
1. Shimano Stella SW10000 (US Model)
2. Shimano Stella SW10000 (JDM Model)
3. Shimano Twinpower SW12000HG

Will greatly appreciate any inputs as I will be getting the items by 10April before sending over to him

thanks
Title: Re: Ocean Revolution Black Devils BD200 rod
Post by: Mark Harris on February 28, 2011, 06:58:54 PM
For PE6 popping you could add to the reel list Twinpower SWA 10000 (the export version of SW12000 with smaller spool) and Saltiga Z6000 GT.

Title: Re: Ocean Revolution Black Devils BD200 rod
Post by: Dave Hoo on February 28, 2011, 07:02:10 PM
Hi Mark,

Many thanks for your reply.

My friend is wondering if the BD200 is a suitable rod for him to fish for GT as the BlackDevil 200 is more of a Tuna rod??

The rod seemed to be quite soft wondering if he can use it to chug 150g craftbaits- like popper?

thanks
Title: Re: Ocean Revolution Black Devils BD200 rod
Post by: Mark Harris on February 28, 2011, 07:15:09 PM
I know very little about the rod, sorry Dave.
Title: Re: Ocean Revolution Black Devils BD200 rod
Post by: Brandon Khoo on February 28, 2011, 07:36:54 PM
Dave, your friend is asking a little bit too much from the BD200 if he wants to chug 150g poppers. Notwithstanding that it is stated to be a PE6 rod, the rod can handle PE8 in the hands of a sensible angler. It is useable for GTs but I would be thinking poppers up to maybe 120 to 130g and stickbaits up to 140 to 150g. 150g Craftbait is asking too much. The ideal reel would be something like a Stella 10000 or a Daiwa 5000.
Title: Re: Ocean Revolution Black Devils BD200 rod
Post by: Mike_Tan on March 01, 2011, 11:53:49 AM
BD300
Title: Re: Ocean Revolution Black Devils BD200 rod
Post by: Lip Song on March 02, 2011, 02:49:14 AM
hi,

i have used this rod to chug a craftbait GT2 150grams, seems it was able to handle it, but then e seas was pretty calm during then. i coupled it with a old stella 10K, with 16K spool, loaded with GT max PE8 lines
Title: Re: Ocean Revolution Black Devils BD200 rod
Post by: Tabrez Muchhala on March 05, 2011, 02:07:42 AM
I second Lip Song's comment ;)
Title: Re: Ocean Revolution Black Devils BD200 rod
Post by: Alex Jordan on March 05, 2011, 07:26:02 AM
Pretty sure it would do great as a stickbait rod - any of the three reels should do him grand (I have both Stella 10K and TP 12K) ... not sure its a chugger rod as its designed for Tuna fishing and  flicking out stickbaits so doesn't have a stiffer tip ...

Title: Re: Ocean Revolution Black Devils BD200 rod
Post by: Dave Hoo on March 27, 2011, 12:20:31 PM
The reviews for the bD200 are quite good.
I was thinking of buying the BD300 to chug..
Mike, have u tried using the bd300 with gt3 craftbaits?

I m still on the lookout for my own chugging combo..

thanks
Title: Re: Ocean Revolution Black Devils BD200 rod
Post by: Mark Harris on March 27, 2011, 12:23:12 PM
Out of interest, are the Ocean Revolution rods still available other than remainders left in stores from old?

I thought that Carpenter had shut them down for trademark theft of the name?
Title: Re: Ocean Revolution Black Devils BD200 rod
Post by: Dave Hoo on March 27, 2011, 02:13:34 PM
Hi mark,
I saw the BD300 under the "temple reef" branding now.

am considering between buying the BD300 blank or a Spinal SP78 blank for chugging GT3.
Title: Re: Ocean Revolution Black Devils BD200 rod
Post by: Patrick Naslund on March 27, 2011, 05:13:40 PM
Out of interest, are the Ocean Revolution rods still available other than remainders left in stores from old?

I thought that Carpenter had shut them down for trademark theft of the name?

Mark.

They are called Temple Reef now.

Same rods, different name (I bought myself both BD100 and BD200 on a special x-mas offer for tuna)
Title: Re: Ocean Revolution Black Devils BD200 rod
Post by: Mark Harris on March 27, 2011, 05:32:19 PM
Thanks for that Patrick and Dave... all clear now :).
Title: Re: Ocean Revolution Black Devils BD200 rod
Post by: Jon Li on March 27, 2011, 05:52:33 PM
Isn't this BD200 based on Smith's WRC80P/35 ?
Title: Re: Ocean Revolution Black Devils BD200 rod
Post by: Patrick Naslund on March 27, 2011, 09:42:48 PM
Isn't this BD200 based on Smith's WRC80P/35 ?

Don't know if it's based on the WRC80P/35
But this is Randys ( at JDMTackle's) own words

Quote
Temple Reef Black Devil series is a collaboration between Smith and Temple Reef, the very same when it used to be under the Ocean Revolution lab
Title: Re: Ocean Revolution Black Devils BD200 rod
Post by: Mark Harris on March 27, 2011, 10:12:55 PM
Isn't this BD200 based on Smith's WRC80P/35 ?

If it is, it ought to be well priced!
Title: Re: Ocean Revolution Black Devils BD200 rod
Post by: Tony Huynh on March 29, 2011, 04:22:48 PM
I'm not certain but I have read a few threads on the net and they said that the OR Black Devil blanks were made by Smith.
Title: Re: Ocean Revolution Black Devils BD200 rod
Post by: Jeff Larsen on March 29, 2011, 08:34:13 PM
I have both the Smith 80p and OR BD 200, does not seem to be the same blank. 
Title: Re: Ocean Revolution Black Devils BD200 rod
Post by: Rick Smith on March 30, 2011, 02:52:01 AM
I have both the Smith 80p and OR BD 200, does not seem to be the same blank.
Jeff, can you compare the 2 rods in terms of casting, power, action...Thanks!