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Topwater Caranx Ignobilis: Giant Trevally (GT) => Tackle & Techniques => Topic started by: Vasko Dimoski on June 02, 2011, 10:32:04 PM
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Hi guys i want a rod to use with 150g Cubera poppers has to be 8ft and no more then 8ft6 what would you recommend i have a shorter rod that dose the job but need a new toy ;D
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Carpenter MH80H will do this, a very strong and versatile rod, assume you are targeting GT.
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Hi Andy I'm actually going to be targeting big kings of the rocks down Jarvis bay with the rod it's only going to be used for poppers in that 150g range. Thanks for your reply
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Worth chk'ing the Zenaq FC80-10. I have the Fokeeto Trevally 83-7 for poppers and stick baits off the stones around Sydney - the rod has been great casting 100 - 140g lures, but does have a softer tip, ideal NZ surface casting stick bait set-up. The FC80-10 is a stiffer popping stick apparently. Chk out the site sponsor Fishhead, the've been great to deal with and is where i got my Zenaq. Cheers, Carlos
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Vasko ,
Why don't you consider a dedicated rock casting rod such as MC Works Raging Bull series ? Yes it is longer than your specified length but will cast further but if you still want a GT rod for the task , DJ83MH or LR88 from Carpenter would be my choise for such terrain .
Jon .
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Hi Jon Li I was thinking about the DJM83H is it good for working 150g poppers ,On the MC works rod a bit to long for my liking the rocks i will be fishing are not that bad i think the length of the DJM83H would be good how dose it compare to a WV80H?
Thank you for your reply
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Hi Jon Li I was thinking about the DJM83H is it good for working 150g poppers ,On the MC works rod a bit to long for my liking the rocks i will be fishing are not that bad i think the length of the DJM83H would be good how dose it compare to a WV80H?
Thank you for your reply
WV80XH is not a distance casting rod , DJ83MH is a better choise and beside you don't need the ultimate strength of the WV80XH . DJ83MH can handle Cubera 150 but perhaps a better choise of lure for shore casting is Skipjack 150 .
Jon .
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Jon Li looks like the DJ83MH could be the rod i need what drag settings would you recommend for this rod?
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I also agree with Carl the Zanaq Fokeeto Trevally 83-7 is a awsome rod great casting rod it can punch out a wide range of lures i also bought it of fishheads. nice built rod
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Jon Li looks like the DJM83H could be the rod i need what drag settings would you recommend for this rod?
Hi Vasko ,
DJ83MH is rated for use with PE 6~10 line , Casting lure max. 220 gr. ( including armaments ) , Drag max. @ 12 kg , according the published specs. from Carpenter .
Jon .
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Thanks for all the info Jon Li you been a great help ;) looks like il be buying a carpenter DJ83MH.
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Thanks for all the info Jon Li you been a great help ;) looks like il be buying a carpenter DJ83MH.
Vasko ,
Your's welcome . DJ83MH is still Yoichi Mogi's personal rod to go all over the world , be it GT , YFT and Atlantic Bluefin tuna , so your choise is a wise one .
Jon .
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Hi Jon Li before i go and buy the DJ83mh what about carpenters new Monster Hunter 80h how dose it compare to the DJ83MH or if any one else has used MH80h ? :)
Thank you
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I have a DJ83MH and find the rod just too soft to work the 150 cubera easily. It will work them but it requires a bit of extra effort as the tip is a little too soft. I am looking for a rod similar to the DJ83MH but just a bit stiffer to work the 150-200g poppers and 170g+ stickbaits.
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I have a DJ83MH and find the rod just to soft to work the 150 cubera easily. It will work them but it requires a bit of extra effort as the tip is a little too soft. I am looking for a rod similar to the DJ83MH but just a bit stiffer to work the 150-200g poppers and 170g+ stickbaits.
For dedicated chugger rod , SP80M may be your answer in Carpenter range . There is one for sale now !
Jon .
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SP80M doesn't have the tip for chuggers much bigger than about 150g. If you want to work ones that size, you'll need to go to the Monster Hunter range
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Brandon is on the spot, masterd bomb 135 i think is the limit
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SP80M doesn't have the tip for chuggers much bigger than about 150g. If you want to work ones that size, you'll need to go to the Monster Hunter range
Which one do you recommend? I much prefer longer rods.
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Actually, I really think you would not prefer a long rod if you want to work big poppers.
Very heavy poppers rods don't exist in longer lengths. Have a think about it - if a long rod was going to have a tip that could handle 200g and upward poppers, the reverse leverage effect on the angler would be horrendous. You'd need to built like Arnie to have any chance of holding onto the rod. If you take a look at the true very heavy popper rods like the Carpenter UHL, Patriot Fire Vortex or Fisherman BG Jack, none of them are excessively long rods and in fact, at their lengths, are already hell to hang onto for any period of time against a big fish. I shudder to think about what it would be like hanging onto a rod that was as strong and stiff as a UHL if it was 8'6"
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I'm much bigger than Arnie so I should be OK! :) Which of the MH range would you recommend for 200g poppers max.?
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well, if you're bigger and stronger than Arnie, you might be right but I've seen some pretty huge blokes screaming in pain on the end of a UHL after ten minutes on a big fish. You're still going to have to convince one of the manufacturers to make one specially for you as they don't exist. Currently, the strongest rod in the MH range is the MH79XH but if you want to pop 200g poppers, it is asking just a bit too much from the rod in my view.
It's not just fighting a fish where a long rod with a stiff tip becomes exhausting. Poping a big chugger for long periods of time would be terribly exhausting work as well.
For a 200g popper, you are going to have to go for something with a really strong tip and they just don't come in long lengths. The SP78 is 7'8", the BG Jack is 7'8" and the Fire Vortex is 7'6".
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Will try to persuade Konishi-san to revive SP78EXH or UHL when I visit him later in the month , for some reason MH79XH isn't making a breakthrough in chugger only rod market in our region .
As for SP80M , I think it will handle Cubera 150 without problem but I agree , it is not an ideal rod for chugging heavier lures but then again , myself hardly use heavier chuggers nowaday , it's just too strenuous for an older person like me .
The size of a guy seldom being the determining factor on how long a guy can keep on chugging all day , a well conditioned guy will last a lot longer , in my opinion but yes youth is definitely help immensely .
Jon .