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Title: Pencil/skipping poppers
Post by: Andrew Poulos on January 04, 2008, 06:41:52 PM
Hi all,

Im looking for some poppers that are designed for skipping rather than blooping. They dont have to be able to handle big GTs, just enough for kings. I have yo zuri surface cruiser, cotton cordell , and blackjack skipjacks, some kokodas and a strikezone. Strikezone dont seem to have the larger popper around any more and Im not too keen on the saltiga pencil poppers that I have.

Are there any other types of skipping poppers around as I cant really seem to find any. Im finding that on bright days lures that can move quickly work better so was looking for some more if they exist. Preferably not the really expensive hammerhead ones as I tend to lose gear when fishing off the rocks and getting busted off.
Title: Re: Pencil/skipping poppers
Post by: Brandon Khoo on January 05, 2008, 06:30:28 AM
Andrew, you would do well to be able to get your hands on the Hammerhead pencil even if you wanted one! I think for your purposes, the YoZuri would fit the bill. I'm overseas for the next three weeks but if you give me a buzz just before the Australia Day long weekend and you can drop around, I'll give you a couple to test out.
Title: Re: Pencil/skipping poppers
Post by: Andrew Poulos on January 05, 2008, 08:44:53 AM
Cheers Brandon,thanks heaps...Im going look around on the web as well and see if I can get more cruisers from o/s as it might be cheaper than the $30 or so they go for around here.
Title: Re: Pencil/skipping poppers
Post by: Luke Wyrsta on January 05, 2008, 07:48:13 PM
Andrew, why don't you give Neil a call and see what he has got?
Title: Re: Pencil/skipping poppers
Post by: Andrew Poulos on January 05, 2008, 08:30:03 PM
Had a chat with Neil on Friday and ordered some other bits and pieces, but not much in the skipping poppers either. He is trying to track down one of the large strikezone skippa ones, and Im getting a skipjack. But there arent many different ones out there in the 80-110gram weight range. Wish I had a lathe or centre drill punch so I could work on some dowel and make a few.
Title: Re: Pencil/skipping poppers
Post by: Andrew Poulos on January 05, 2008, 08:43:10 PM
Anyone used or seen in action a hammerhead tobi 69 ? What is their action like?
Title: Re: Pencil/skipping poppers
Post by: Brandon Khoo on January 06, 2008, 05:19:06 AM
I've got them - they work more like a combo stickbait/pencil than a pencil.
Title: Re: Pencil/skipping poppers
Post by: Mark Stotesbury on January 06, 2008, 06:48:13 AM
Andrew here in south africa we use a flatsided nylon/polypropalene plug for yellowtail off the rocks very basic but deadly will post a pic for you very easy to make
markl
Title: Re: Pencil/skipping poppers
Post by: Sam Beeby on January 08, 2008, 11:16:56 AM
Yeah, I think those ones are sold here as 'Richter' lures. They have a flat on the underside so that they really skip along fast, only have hooks on the tail, and are quite heavy for their length so cast like bullets. I've seen them in pics of Hat head swingy off the rods of eugene partridge and co so they must work. They look pretty rudimentary but i'm keen to get my hands on them myself.
Title: Re: Pencil/skipping poppers
Post by: Sam Beeby on January 08, 2008, 11:19:34 AM
http://richterlures.com/lures/surface-plugs  check this out
Title: Re: Pencil/skipping poppers
Post by: Andrew Poulos on January 08, 2008, 01:24:48 PM
Cheers for the link. A few places stock them by the looks of it. I might have to do some ringing around while Im at work and getting shafted. Might as well do something joyful while Im here today....
Title: Re: Pencil/skipping poppers
Post by: Mark Stotesbury on January 12, 2008, 08:39:15 AM
Andrew
the plugs in the link are moulded and have a rounded edge these are made by a company called predator plugs.the origional were cut out of poly and have sharp edges and a square arse.these swim better and kick up more water nothing wrong with the moulded ones though ,will post a pic of the square type when i get a chance off to chase some yellowfin on saturday.
mark
Title: Re: Pencil/skipping poppers
Post by: Andrew Poulos on January 12, 2008, 02:28:13 PM
Cheers Mark
Title: Re: Pencil/skipping poppers
Post by: Mark Stotesbury on January 14, 2008, 03:32:26 AM
plugs
Title: Re: Pencil/skipping poppers
Post by: Andrew Woodley-Page on February 10, 2008, 02:37:30 PM
These South African plugs have been commonplace in WA for 10-15 years, mainly used by land based anglers because they cast like bullets.  Easy to use, they skip and produce quite a splash.  These have accounted for pretty much all pelagics including GT's.  They don't look fancy but they're tough and effective.  Back to back swinging hooks are the go.
Title: Re: Pencil/skipping poppers
Post by: Andre van Wyk on February 12, 2008, 02:49:41 AM
For what its worth, those plugs that Mark posted, the flat white square sided ones are also DYNAMITE on the Seychelles GT's... they call them GT Ice Cream Cones.... The Fly Fishing guides use them as hookless teasers for the Fly guys.... Amazing how a simple and cheap lure like that can call in a whole shoal of 20 kilo plus GT's into 2ft of water....

Cheap, tough, and they work.....

They work on Tuna too....

72 kilo YFT taken by Grant SPooner just a few miles offshore at Bellows Rock in October 2006.... on a Wayne Stanly Plug like the ones in Mark's pic...
(http://i31.tinypic.com/3179mc0.jpg)
(http://i28.tinypic.com/908239.jpg)

Mark I believe you know Grant  from Marine Scene....He reckons his boat's gonna be done before yours!!! ;D ;D ;D Have you seen his new boat? 28ft Butt Cat, which he reckons is gonna be the ultimate site casting tuna boat.... I haven't seen her but looking forward to it...
Title: Re: Pencil/skipping poppers
Post by: Mark Stotesbury on February 12, 2008, 05:09:40 AM
Remind me to crap on grant for not tagging that fish.
Title: Re: Pencil/skipping poppers
Post by: Andre van Wyk on February 12, 2008, 06:30:36 PM
Remind me to crap on grant for not tagging that fish.

 ;D ;D - I know he probably regrets it now...... Bus fish though..... I want one... I'll be more than happy to tag too....  ;)
Title: Re: Pencil/skipping poppers
Post by: Andrew Poulos on February 12, 2008, 07:38:50 PM
Geez, if only next trip off the rocks a 'fin like that hits my lure I would be oh so happy to say the least.....
Title: Re: Pencil/skipping poppers
Post by: Mark Stotesbury on February 13, 2008, 06:31:24 AM
Andre
 23 fish that size and bigger on last trip lost a monster on my last orion bigfoot so size no problem when we go     
Title: Re: Pencil/skipping poppers
Post by: Mark Stotesbury on February 13, 2008, 07:04:36 AM
Hi Andrew
what species are you targeting on those poppers?
mark   
Title: Re: Pencil/skipping poppers
Post by: Brandon Khoo on February 13, 2008, 07:23:40 AM
Andrew, I have a stickbait from Adhek that I describe as a skittering popper. I have found it very effective on GTs when worked fast on the surface.

Title: Re: Pencil/skipping poppers
Post by: Andrew Poulos on February 13, 2008, 01:51:48 PM
Being Sydney based I target yellowtail kings - and anything other pelgaic. But bonito are scare these days, and salmon, well,Im over them so kings are what I try for on poppers. If I get a chance this year will head north for longtail tunas, but havent been able to get off work to do so usually, and now looking at changing jobs so might miss out again.

Brandon, will be keen to have a look at that popper some time and see if I can track more down later. Found this link actually - http://www.adhek.net/asfeng/popper_catalogue.pdf

Which one is the one you are referring to?

This weather sux here this summer and Ive done hardly any trips to test out any of the new lures I bought.
Title: Re: Pencil/skipping poppers
Post by: Andre van Wyk on February 13, 2008, 05:47:16 PM
Andre
 23 fish that size and bigger on last trip lost a monster on my last orion bigfoot so size no problem when we go     

Ahhhh man, that is MUSIC to my ears...... the Carpenter is gonna get a workout finally!!!
Title: Re: Pencil/skipping poppers
Post by: Brandon Khoo on February 13, 2008, 06:03:31 PM

it is the long goby

Being Sydney based I target yellowtail kings - and anything other pelgaic. But bonito are scare these days, and salmon, well,Im over them so kings are what I try for on poppers. If I get a chance this year will head north for longtail tunas, but havent been able to get off work to do so usually, and now looking at changing jobs so might miss out again.

Brandon, will be keen to have a look at that popper some time and see if I can track more down later. Found this link actually - http://www.adhek.net/asfeng/popper_catalogue.pdf

Which one is the one you are referring to?

This weather sux here this summer and Ive done hardly any trips to test out any of the new lures I bought.
Title: Re: Pencil/skipping poppers
Post by: Mark Stotesbury on February 14, 2008, 11:30:21 PM
Hi Adrew
if you get a chance try a big treble -2 sizes up, on your poppers it creates more bubbles on your poly plug we catch all our tail that way .a square bottom also rides better in the water the rounded type not popular in south africa
cheers mark