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Title: What Hooks for What Lures!?
Post by: Ben Rivers on January 10, 2012, 07:47:19 PM
Hi Guys,

Seems to be an issue for most, being discussed in Mark Harris's lure board thread. For those with more experience than myself, can you please give a guide for some common lures?

Ie: Lure XXX = Front ST66 5/0, Back ST76 5/0 or Front 2 SJ41 11/0, Back Jobu 9/0

Craftbait GT3 150
Kong 180
Kong 200
Seafrog 120
Seafrog 150
Cubera 125
Cubera 150
Master Bomb 155
FCL Ebipop 140

Just to start - I'm sure there are other commonly used lures to be added.

Thanks Ben
Title: Re: What Hooks for What Lures!?
Post by: Peter Childs on January 10, 2012, 08:00:44 PM
Nice post Ben, you just beat me too it.  At the risk of maybe ending up with a twenty page post, is there a way "Wikipedia like" that we can just get a single page "rolling list"going that we can all add to / ammend on an ongoing basis?

Brandon? Luke?.........Mark?

Any other IT geeks out there?......No offence intended of course.
Title: Re: What Hooks for What Lures!?
Post by: Luke Wyrsta on January 10, 2012, 08:53:37 PM
We can do this. Let's have the contributions and I will consolidate at a logical point in a master topic.
Title: Re: What Hooks for What Lures!?
Post by: Jamie Moir on January 10, 2012, 08:56:56 PM
Anyone checked if there is a wiki that can share logins with SMF?
Title: Re: What Hooks for What Lures!?
Post by: Mark Harris on January 10, 2012, 09:12:42 PM
Thing is ... I am not sure there are right and wrong answers to Ben's requests, only individual prefrences.  That might make it hard to get a consolidated answer.

Any way I will kick off with what I personally choose to use on those lures (for the ones I actually use).

Craftbait GT3 150  ST66 5/0 (in rough water ST 76 5/0) but pop is cleaner with ST66. I prefer a GT3 to sit up in the water.  .
Kong 180 - don't know
Kong 200 -  ST76 5/0
Seafrog 120 - ST76 4/0
Seafrog 150 - ST66 5/0
Cubera 125 - ST76 4/0 or ST 66 5/0
Cubera 150 - ST66 5/0
Master Bomb 155 - ST76 5/0
FCL Ebipop 140 - don't know.

Title: Re: What Hooks for What Lures!?
Post by: Ben Rivers on January 10, 2012, 09:18:19 PM
Thing is ... I am not sure there are right and wrong answers to Ben's requests, only individual prefrences.  That might make it hard to get a consolidated.

Mark - At worst it's a solid starting point for less experienced anglers, rather than them wasting the time experimenting with completely wrong combinations and hooks :)
Title: Re: What Hooks for What Lures!?
Post by: Graham Scott on January 10, 2012, 09:55:00 PM
ebipop 140....ST66 5/0  76 are a bit too heavy
Title: Re: What Hooks for What Lures!?
Post by: Martin Gundersen on January 10, 2012, 10:53:18 PM
Mark - At worst it's a solid starting point for less experienced anglers, rather than them wasting the time experimenting with completely wrong combinations and hooks :)
I agree.
I get (hopefully) one popping trip per year. So this info would be great value to me, as I don't have much experience.
Title: Re: What Hooks for What Lures!?
Post by: Ben Rivers on January 11, 2012, 08:00:58 PM
What about for Stickbaits:

Some Popular ones to start:

Adhek Goby
Orion Bigfoot 170
Sebile Stick Shadd 182
Patriot Design Patrol 345
Nomad Dogtooth 150
Nomad Bobara 100
Carpenter Gamma 200
Carpenter Gamma 160
Orion Big Namba 210

Title: Re: What Hooks for What Lures!?
Post by: Mark Harris on January 12, 2012, 10:18:54 PM
Here's one from me:

Fisherman Delta5 170 gram sinking.  I have just bought a couple of these for the first time, and will probably stick one in my bag for Southern Oman on Saturday.   Any thoughts on hooks? It's a big ugly sinker so I guess it will not be too sensitive?

Thought I would give this one a go despite really not liking the floating version!

If anyone has used it, some guidance on hooks would be much appreciated.
Title: Re: What Hooks for What Lures!?
Post by: Brandon Khoo on January 12, 2012, 10:25:27 PM
Mark, as a sinker, i don't think the lure will be as sensitive on hooks.
Title: Re: What Hooks for What Lures!?
Post by: Mark Harris on January 12, 2012, 10:30:50 PM
That kind of what I thought Brandon and thanks. It is though plastic, hollow and full of what sounds like ball bearings... so not a typical sinker by any means!
Title: Re: What Hooks for What Lures!?
Post by: Mark Harris on January 12, 2012, 10:37:29 PM
Just seen this one and have added my comments where appropriate.

What about for Stickbaits:

Some Popular ones to start:

Adhek Goby 2 x ST66 5/0

Orion Bigfoot 170  usually use singles on this one: owner Jobu 9/0 x 2. Have also caught fish using a SJ41 13/0 on an assist cord off the front.

Sebile Stick Shadd 182 never used

Patriot Design Patrol 345  never used.

Nomad Dogtooth 150  ST66 5/0 x 2

Nomad Bobara 100  ST 66 4/0 x 2

Carpenter Gamma 200 ST 76 5/0 x 2

Carpenter Gamma 160 ST 66 5/0 x 2

Orion Big Namba 210  never used

Title: Re: What Hooks for What Lures!?
Post by: Ben Rivers on January 17, 2012, 11:12:25 PM
It would appear that Owner SJ41 TG 11/0 have been replaced with SJ41 TN 11/0.

I've just ordered a pack, will be interested to see if there is a notiable difference.
Title: Re: What Hooks for What Lures!?
Post by: Ben Rivers on January 28, 2012, 01:48:27 PM
It would appear that Owner SJ41 TG 11/0 have been replaced with SJ41 TN 11/0.

I've just ordered a pack, will be interested to see if there is a notiable difference.

New TN version arrived, the difference is clear, they are now silver, instead of gold.
Title: Re: What Hooks for What Lures!?
Post by: Mark Harris on January 28, 2012, 02:11:13 PM
The gold TG finish on Owner singles has been notable rubbish over the years - very prone to corrosion.  It's potentially good news that they have switched to the TN finish which is the one used on ST66 trebles for example
Title: Re: What Hooks for What Lures!?
Post by: Ben Rivers on April 09, 2012, 04:16:24 PM
Recommended Trebles for the following please:

Hammer Head I Cup
Nomad Bobara 150
PD Master Bomb 135
Nomad Skipjack 150
Title: Re: What Hooks for What Lures!?
Post by: Charlie Chew on April 11, 2012, 12:31:36 AM
how about craftbait GT3 170 & 190, realbait 170
Title: Re: What Hooks for What Lures!?
Post by: Mark Harris on April 11, 2012, 12:14:37 PM
Recommended Trebles for the following please:

Hammer Head I Cup
Nomad Bobara 150
PD Master Bomb 135
Nomad Skipjack 150

Hammer Head I Cup (sell the lure  :P)
Nomad Bobara 150 (ST66 5/0)
PD Master Bomb 135 (ST66 5/0)
Nomad Skipjack 150 (ST66 5/0)
Title: Re: What Hooks for What Lures!?
Post by: Mark Harris on April 11, 2012, 12:20:43 PM
how about craftbait GT3 170 & 190, realbait 170

GT3 170 - ST76 5/0
Realbait 170 - ST76 5/0

Both would probably take a size bigger - the relevant Recorder or Decoy.  With GT3s though I am always careful about not over-weighting them.  It is a fantastic popper and especially so when it sits up a little in the water.

GT3 190s I use so rarely that I should not comment.
Title: Re: What Hooks for What Lures!?
Post by: Charlie Chew on April 12, 2012, 12:45:12 AM
how about craftbait GT3 170 & 190, realbait 170

GT3 170 - ST76 5/0
Realbait 170 - ST76 5/0

Both would probably take a size bigger - the relevant Recorder or Decoy.  With GT3s though I am always careful about not over-weighting them.  It is a fantastic popper and especially so when it sits up a little in the water.

GT3 190s I use so rarely that I should not comment.

Thank you Mark for your precious advise.

So if using recorder, i should out on a pair of 6/0 ?

Whats the pros and cos of each individual hooks (eg. recorder, owner and decoy)

Can any1 comment ?