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Topwater Caranx Ignobilis: Giant Trevally (GT) => Tackle & Techniques => Topic started by: David Noble on February 24, 2012, 05:08:55 PM

Title: Removable core Kevlar for 170lb
Post by: David Noble on February 24, 2012, 05:08:55 PM
I am after some kevlar to fit over 170lb Galis Castman as a toothy resistant bite leader.
Can anyone suggest the right product and size to get for this or is any removable core kevlar suitable??

Cheers David

Title: Re: Removable core Kevlar for 170lb
Post by: Dmitrii Novgorodtcev on February 24, 2012, 06:11:32 PM
Varivas SS Assist line #60 fits 170Lb perfectly.
Title: Re: Removable core Kevlar for 170lb
Post by: Mark Harris on February 24, 2012, 06:16:51 PM
Yep I use Varivas SS Kevlar size 60 as a sleeve over 170 lb Galis. You can also just about fit it over Varivas 200 lb shock but that is getting a bit tight.
Title: Re: Removable core Kevlar for 170lb
Post by: David Noble on February 24, 2012, 06:27:18 PM
Thanks Dmitrii and Mark,

Much appreciated.

Cheers David
Title: Re: Removable core Kevlar for 170lb
Post by: Chris Rogerson on February 28, 2012, 10:02:58 AM
Are you guys using this instead of a heavy bite leader?
Title: Re: Removable core Kevlar for 170lb
Post by: Mark Harris on February 28, 2012, 12:30:03 PM
I use it only rarely Chris as it is not often I find bite leaders necessary when GT fishing.  But I keep some in my bag in case it does become necessary.
Title: Re: Removable core Kevlar for 170lb
Post by: Chris Rogerson on February 28, 2012, 08:55:00 PM
Do you secure either? end or rely on the tight fit to keep it in place?
Title: Re: Removable core Kevlar for 170lb
Post by: Mark Harris on February 28, 2012, 09:19:16 PM
Something like this Chris. The knot keeps the kevlar in place. You could of course knot it to a swivel and not directly to the lure.

(http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac239/markinbali/Kevlarleadercopy.jpg)

Also a discussion on this here: http://www.gtpopping.com/forum/index.php?topic=3119.0 (http://www.gtpopping.com/forum/index.php?topic=3119.0)
Title: Re: Removable core Kevlar for 170lb
Post by: Chris Rogerson on February 28, 2012, 10:25:57 PM
Looks like a simple effective option!! :)
Title: Re: Removable core Kevlar for 170lb
Post by: Warwick Joyce on February 29, 2012, 08:04:25 AM
Exactly how tooth resistant is this?

I've had spano's swipe assist hooks off without even taking weight on the line.
Title: Re: Removable core Kevlar for 170lb
Post by: Luke Wyrsta on February 29, 2012, 09:07:29 AM
Not overly toothy resistant. It's still more focused on stopping abraison from GT mouth.
Title: Re: Removable core Kevlar for 170lb
Post by: Mark Harris on February 29, 2012, 11:26:39 AM
Luke is spot on... I would use this as a GT bite leader. I don't think there is a solution other than wire if you want to become razor gang-proof.

And wire is not really a solution as such as means you will not catch many fish!
Title: Re: Removable core Kevlar for 170lb
Post by: Brandon Khoo on February 29, 2012, 12:23:10 PM
If you want serious razor gang resistance, you got to use wire.
Title: Re: Removable core Kevlar for 170lb
Post by: Warwick Joyce on February 29, 2012, 12:54:30 PM
I have never looked at my leader after catching a GT and thought that it had been damaged from their teeth. Maybe I am just lucky?
Title: Re: Removable core Kevlar for 170lb
Post by: Mark Harris on February 29, 2012, 01:58:16 PM
GT teeth can definitely damage your leader - particularly if it is a big fish that inhales the lure.

Also an 80 cm length (for example) of kevlar will give some protection against sharp rocks in shallow water,  against GT tail swipes and also a little bit against the razor gang (although not much).
Title: Re: Removable core Kevlar for 170lb
Post by: Travis Heaps on February 29, 2012, 02:37:09 PM
I have never looked at my leader after catching a GT and thought that it had been damaged from their teeth. Maybe I am just lucky?

for whatever reason up here most of our fish seem to be hooked on the outside of the mouth, they rarely inhale it?  I've had one recently though and it had roughed it up a bit.
Title: Re: Removable core Kevlar for 170lb
Post by: Luke Wyrsta on February 29, 2012, 02:44:16 PM
GT teeth can definitely damage your leader - particularly if it is a big fish that inhales the lure.

Also an 80 cm length (for example) of kevlar will give some protection against sharp rocks in shallow water,  against GT tail swipes and also a little bit against the razor gang (although not much).

Tail whips are worse in my opinion! Particularly because they can wrap around the tail and knick/damaged the PE.

Of course, monster GT versus light leader can be disaster....even 200lb can be destory easily by GT teeth.

Title: Re: Removable core Kevlar for 170lb
Post by: Luke Wyrsta on February 29, 2012, 02:47:48 PM
I have never looked at my leader after catching a GT and thought that it had been damaged from their teeth. Maybe I am just lucky?

for whatever reason up here most of our fish seem to be hooked on the outside of the mouth, they rarely inhale it?  I've had one recently though and it had roughed it up a bit.

Sounds like tentative and shy "swipes" by GT chasing surface bait imitations - i.e. skittering gars?

I find that particularly true to have such hook-ups if GT are behaving in this way. Usually they only bite if the strike is forced upon them by essentially placing the lure on their nose or immediate vicinity rather than high GT activity when they will smoke a lure from miles away....