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Extreme Jigging: Dogtooth Tuna, Yellowtail Kingfish (Hiramasa), Amberjack, Samson Fish => Tackle & Techniques => Topic started by: Ben Rivers on March 14, 2012, 08:52:51 PM

Title: Stella 18000
Post by: Ben Rivers on March 14, 2012, 08:52:51 PM
Guys

Whilst I understand that the Stella 18000 is a designed for higher speed activities, my question is, can this reel still be used as a jigging reel? Or do I need to source another reel?

Thanks Ben
Title: Re: Stella 18000
Post by: Chris Webster on March 14, 2012, 08:55:29 PM
You can use it Ben but it just makes jigging harder than it already is. I used to jig with a 10000SW.
Title: Re: Stella 18000
Post by: Ben Rivers on March 14, 2012, 09:19:13 PM
Thanks for the reply Chris.
Title: Re: Stella 18000
Post by: Dan Colebrook on March 15, 2012, 01:57:14 PM
You can use it Ben but it just makes jigging harder than it already is. I used to jig with a 10000SW.
agree, its not much fun, tried the 10000sw also to see if there was much difference. when it gets deep its even worse! a short burst of jigging in the shallows is ok tho.
Title: Re: Stella 18000
Post by: Mark Harris on March 15, 2012, 02:38:00 PM
In an "emergency" I once jigged with a Dogfight with 500 grams on the other end in a strong current. Absolutely murderous!
Title: Re: Stella 18000
Post by: Ben Rivers on March 15, 2012, 02:44:59 PM
What is the highest gear ratio you would suggest for a reel for jigging? 4.9?
Title: Re: Stella 18000
Post by: Mark Harris on March 15, 2012, 03:20:47 PM
Ideally under 5 I would say.
Title: Re: Stella 18000
Post by: Rob Langridge on March 16, 2012, 04:04:08 PM
Ben

The STL18000SW has a gear ratio of 5.7:1 per crank its about 127cm. Very good for popping
The Saltiga 5000 has a gear ratio of 4.4:1 per crank its about 95cm. Very good for jigging

Both are very good reels but in my opinion the Saltiga 5000 is a better reel for jigging than the Stella18000SW.
Where the difference is in the reels for jigging is line retrieve per crank at 127cm the Stella makes it difficult to land big fish as to where the Saltiga line retrieve per crank is 95cm it makes it easier to land big fish.
This is just my opinion Ben.

Cheers Rob
Title: Re: Stella 18000
Post by: Mark Harris on March 16, 2012, 04:22:18 PM
It is not only the ability to lift a big fish, it is the ease and rhythm of jigging, especially when you are using heavy jigs. Top water reels like 18000SW and the fast Saltigas will soon either wear you out at their normal retrieve speed, or destroy your rhythm by your having to reel so slowly.

Try to stick to the rough guideline of a gear ratio under 5 for deep jigging and over 5 for top water.
Title: Re: Stella 18000
Post by: Ben Rivers on March 16, 2012, 05:36:57 PM
Shimano Saragosa 18000F is 4.9; 20kg Drag - would this be suitable?
Title: Re: Stella 18000
Post by: Chris Webster on March 16, 2012, 06:12:20 PM
Hey Ben. If the figures you uave quoted are correct, and im sure they are, then that reel would be fine.
Title: Re: Stella 18000
Post by: Mark Harris on March 16, 2012, 06:19:44 PM
I have jigged with a Saragosa 18000 and that is its optimum use, although it is not bad all-rounder as well.  Ignore the 20 kg drag stuff of course :).   I have brought up some reasonable fish with this reel Ben including 20 kg+ Dogtooth and GTs from the depths.

Title: Re: Stella 18000
Post by: Ben Rivers on March 16, 2012, 08:17:37 PM
I used to have a Saragosa 14000F, but sold it many moons ago - damit!
Title: Re: Stella 18000
Post by: Ben Rivers on March 18, 2012, 12:34:24 PM
Would an 8000 size Twinpower PG or a Biomaster PG be too small for jigging?
Twinpower has 25kg drag and Biomastee has 13kg.

Line Capacity is about 300m of 50lb Braid.
Title: Re: Stella 18000
Post by: Mark Harris on March 18, 2012, 12:55:14 PM
Twinpower 8000PG is a very nice jigging reel Ben and I would imagine most of the sales are for exactly that purpose.

You will not get 300 metres of PE5/50lb on it though.  I have mine loaded with 300 metres of PE4, and use a spare Stella 10000 spool on it for PE5.
Title: Re: Stella 18000
Post by: Ben Rivers on March 18, 2012, 12:59:51 PM
Thanks Mark - I've got a TP 8000 PG that I've used in shallows / Flats fishing. I'll use this and buy a 8000 HG to replace for the Shallows / Flats.

I'm going to pair the 8000 PG on a Blue Rose S53SD.
Title: Re: Stella 18000
Post by: Ben Rivers on March 18, 2012, 06:44:41 PM
Decided to buy a Saragosa 18000F.
Title: Re: Stella 18000
Post by: joe sciberras on July 27, 2012, 08:56:17 PM
JUST READ YOUR POST BEN ,JUST BOUGHT SARAGOSA 18000 AND USED WITH JIGWREX ,CAUGHT MY FIRST SOUTHERN BLUE FIN TUNA 50KG WORKED GREAT