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Topwater Caranx Ignobilis: Giant Trevally (GT) => Tackle & Techniques => Topic started by: Guy Durham on April 04, 2012, 10:21:04 PM
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Guys, I'm looking for a spare spool for my Stella 20k SW. I see there are a few options out there. Can someone please steer me in the right direction.
Pros & cons of the different available options based on personal experience would be awesome.
Cheers
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Unlike with spare spools for 10000 size reels, none of the options for a 20000 give any increased capacity to the factory original as far as I know?
Therefore, I would probably buy a spare Stella SW 20000 spool, simple as that.
I bought spare Stella SW 20000 spool for my SW 18000.
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JM had just developed a new spool for Stella 18000 & 20000 called JM monster 25000, no review yet as it's just released. Visit in their website for a look.
Cheers.
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Excellent Amr. Being a Shimano product, the extra line capacity is no doubt correct and that is a benefit that perhaps justifies the extra cost.
I would be sceptical about the increased drag claims for Yumeya over standard Shimano spools though. For example, the Yumeya 12000 spool drag seems completely the same to me as the Twinpower 12000.
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Mark, I think you misread... He said decreased drag over standard spool. Which I am to some degree equally as surprised about. Decreasing the drag on a flagship reel 8)
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Guy.
I think the overall diamter of the 20000 max spool is slightly larger than the 20000 regular (in addition to a slightly smaller arbor size) at least where the line can spool up to anyway. The laws of physics dictate that the applicable drag at this increased circcumference will be less - assuming the capcity of the drag stack on the centre line of the spool is not upgraded in any way.
For the same reason, you can apply more maximum drag to a Stella 8000SW than a 10,000SW or a 12000SW.
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Whoops, sorry Guy, I did mis-read that :-[.
In light of that, Pete's explanation is spot on. It will be the same drag stack I am sure with less drag put down due to the increased capacity.
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Peter,
I agree with your analysis. Admittedly, I hadn't considered a notable increase in OD due to the limited dimensions withIn the rotor. I was giving more consideration to the wall thickness on the arbour that would be created Blythe available space between the spool and the shaft.
That said, drag capacity & component quality are probably my driving criteria as I'll probably load the spare spool with 50lb for light popping and bottom bashing on the reef. The smaller line diameter will give me plenty of line capacity on any spool for this reel.
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Guy, if you are going for the 20k max spool you are going to have a big arm after putting nearly a kilometer of 50lb line on that bad boy ;).
Peter,
I agree with your analysis. Admittedly, I hadn't considered a notable increase in OD due to the limited dimensions withIn the rotor. I was giving more consideration to the wall thickness on the arbour that would be created Blythe available space between the spool and the shaft.
That said, drag capacity & component quality are probably my driving criteria as I'll probably load the spare spool with 50lb for light popping and bottom bashing on the reef. The smaller line diameter will give me plenty of line capacity on any spool for this reel.
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LOL... that would be some first run ;)
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I thought About this reduced drag issue on the timetable spool last night.
Peter linked increased diameter being the key driver, but I think we missed something. Radius (or diameter) has a linear relationship to moment force, which is what we are talking about with drag capabilities. Therefore, with all other factors remaining constant, to go from a rating of 25kg to 15kg would require a 40% increase in diameter, which clearly won't happen on a reel without extensive modification.
So there is some other variable at play, and realistically that comes down to a weaker drag washer set or a different point of reference (position throught the usable depth of the spool) for measurement.
Anyway, I guess my choices are original part, SOM, and JM. how do these stack up against each other in overall terms? :D
BTW - do I recall reading somewhere once that shimano measure drag at the arbor? In which case this whole discussion about overall diameters is just a big red herring! Hahaha
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There does not seem to be a Jigging Master 25000 spool. There only seems to be the 16000 spool for the Stella 10000SW
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There does not seem to be a Jigging Master 25000 spool. There only seems to be the 16000 spool for the Stella 10000SW
Try this Nicolas,
http://jiggingmaster-ag.com/home/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=299%3Ajigging-master-16000&catid=55%3Aaluminum&Itemid=118&lang=en (http://jiggingmaster-ag.com/home/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=299%3Ajigging-master-16000&catid=55%3Aaluminum&Itemid=118&lang=en)
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Jay, a lot cheaper than the shimano max spool offering :P
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The price of that Yumeya 20000 Max spool is truly nuts! Even the SOM 180000/20000 is cheaper.
Providing the performance is as good as their 16000, that new massive JM spool seems to be the one to go for.
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That JM spool says 25-45kg drag. Sounds "adequate" ;)
Not sure if I believe that claim, but I have a mental image of giving that reel to the missus with the drag cranked right up... With out telling her of course. She weighs about 50kg. She'd get whiplash on the way out of the boat. Bahaha ;D
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Drag level at 25~45 kg can cause damage to the reel , it happened while @ SFPC Fishing festival in Tokyo last month when one of the leading captain of a charter boat in Japan tried the Mogi's drag machine , the reel suffered broken bail-arm when subjected to 25 kg drag .
Jon .
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In the same vain:
Having taken notice of the advise given on a different thread I'v decide to buy a 16000 spare spool for my sw twinpower 12000hg in order to use PE8 braid.
Can't find a supplier in the UK to buy from.
Question which make and where from.
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Just buy JM 16000 spool. I am very impressing from carbon tex disk drag: 7 in total whit 2 bigger in the bottom position (like shimano twin drag, available only for 18000-20000 models). For me construction quality is good and quality/price is very good. I think I'll going to try 25000 models. Yumena max spool is too much expansive for me...